Trying to help a friend

[Aussie Kev]

A friend of mine has a huge promblem with Darts falling out,
Yes he has sanded the tips , even tryed the patato trick. But the Darts still drop out. He has a week arm or throw.
My Q is, should I recomend droping down 2g to try out 20g Darts or stick with the same 22g with another Point. It has got past the Point of a laugh when it hapens so oftern.
I dont like to say the wrong Thing, when his Darts are hitting the traget almost every time. By the time his third dart hits the board, the first 2 are on the ground.
Any advice (thanks)

[MichelBarre]

recommend trying a heavier dart,
a year ago I threw with 23/24g , switched to 26g and have wayyy less bounce outs

[ChrisTheFish]

What board is he throwing at ? I had a B4dC that would not hold my darts.If the board is good try slightly heavier.

[JayKay]

My friend also had a similar problem. We fixed it by going up in weight slightly and switching to front loaded barrels. Also try different points, possibly harpoon points you can buy in dc or unicorn gripper, harrows laser cut or Target diamond pro points which could also be found at dc or madhouse darts.
Hope this helps. It did help my friend very recently and he hasn't looked back .)

[Spartan]

Even standard black points are very grippy and saves tearing the board with gripper points etc

[Regulatori]

When you say sanded the tips, do you mean scuffing?

2 things.

Some points just suck. I had a set of expensive Japanese darts that had horrible points. Just constant fall-outs/bounce outs.

I would recommend either...
-Put in different points. His points may just be of the thick variety and make it difficult to stick regardless of sanding.

-Actually put the dart tip edges against a sharpening stone and rub the tip against the stone on opposite sides (not all around...just each side). You want to form a "v" or wedge shaped tip at the end. Like if you look at the end of a slot screwdriver, the shaft will taper down towards the end to make a V for the slot bit on the end. You want to make a similar taper on each side of the dart points tip.

Then scuff them up along the sides.
Beware....the darts will be sharp. Don't go too crazy and make the point super thin at the end...just a noticeable wedge shape. The darts will stick in further with a light throw and the scuffing will keep them in there.

I've seen pros with points like this....James Wade does this often.

[Getagrip]

heavier darts and grippier points

[*Saber*]

heavier darts and grippier points

what he said - go to 26gm problem over IM- heavier dart easier to throw.

[Dmott]

Sounds like a weird board to me, even with 12g darts on my Shot board, which is pretty hard and known for pushing darts out, all my friends do just fine.

Im not saying to change his throw, but it could be that his darts have a wobble to them and when they hit the board the dart is not in line with the path its been traveling. Kinda hard to explain but imagine as the dart is coming down the arc on the way to the board the point is actually facing up. When it hits the board all the force of the dart will not help drive the dart in. Imagine hitting a nail straight, but the nail itself is 45 degrees sideways, you arent going to get the nail much deeper, or maybe not deeper at all.

I feel like a front weighted dart helps make sure the dart is going to follow the arc more consistently. Even with a bad release and a front weighted dart, the dart hits board with force you can hear.

[Aussie Kev]

Thanks for the advices, I gave him a lend of my 26g Whitlocks. Seems to help,
Time will tell if it will work in a match,