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molded flights - your opinions
I'm wanting to get some molded flights and i'm not sure wither or not to buy cosmo , l-style, condor or harrows . as anyone used all or a few of these and can offer a comparison ? can these actually make a dart fly better , I'm not convinced that they can have any effect other then angle of entry into the dart board (vertically) as like any flight being at the very rear of a heavy object surely they just stop the arse of the dart over taking the front and aren't need purely to straighten out the flight path. is this wrong ? what are the other if any advantages of using these flights , one advantage i can think of and the reason for wanting them is flexibility of the stem. i know i can get quiver and other standard stems that bend , but i haven't liked any I've tried yet. i suppose this would rule out l-style or would it ? would this mean perhaps condor would be the best choice ? i use steel tip only and as yet i have no darts with storm points and currently using phase 2 Phil Taylor's so this i understand will effect the longevity of the flights . if using them long term I'd probably fit storms or at least use tridents , but how would a grip pattern such as the purist grip effect the plastic of the flight?
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I am about to buy all 3 types. I am very interested in seeing which ones I like.
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For my soft tip setup,,,,I really liked the options Fit Flight and Fit Gear have,,3 completely different styles of shafts,,,,in different materials,,,, I broke 3 Fit Gear #3 Hybrid stems on bounce outs on to my hardwood floors,,,,for me to use them again I would buy the carbon or other types of Fit shafts,,,,, Then I switched to Harrows so far so good,,,but only standard size flights for now ,,,I'm getting use to them,,,,

For my steel tip setup using my 21 gram Harrows Alien darts with the Unicorn Slik Stik Plus medium shaft,,, built in flight protectors and the most flexible shaft I have ever seen using standard flights,,,,,
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I have tried most of the systems out there. I have never heard of them making a dart fly better. Maybe extra weight with things like caps but I have not found any difference between the different set ups. Only thing I notice is that different systems wear better. I am a Cosmo user and I love the system, no fiddling with little bits and extra tools just screw in the stem and pop on the flight. The Harrows system is similar but you risk robinhoods with the open flight section where it clicks onto the stem.

If you want to change how the dart lands in the board I believe you can try different flight shapes and that will help. Depending on the surface of a flight that could lower and raise the tail of the dart.
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I like the flights systems for various reason but I can be just as happy using my old deflectagrips and Amazon flights. Its nice using the moulded flights for there generally more perfect angles and ease of use though Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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I've mentioned this before... but...

If these molded flights made any difference in dart flight patterns... every single company would be making them so that every single pro could be using them.

No question they last WAY longer than other flights, but I don't buy it for a second that they make the dart fly better.
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They won't make them fly better. It is merely durability and style.
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Saying that, if you think it makes them fly better then it probably will due to the mental aspect lol
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I wrecked a set of the new Harrows Clic within ½ hour. Split them on the underside from flight on flight contact. Normal flights last me months for one set. Just sayin'....

On the plus side I've found a new feature on my Cosmo's. I'm sure you're all familiar with the old bar darts? Ya know how players used to yank them out of the board, by the flights? Well you can do the same thing with Cosmo's. Yank em out of the board by the flight. Soft tip players will know what I mean. We see it all the time on soft tip boards and bar darts Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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thanks for all the answers lads ,

Cy the harrows clic you used , was that with smooth darts and storm points ? if so i think i can rule them out
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(10-07-2014, 03:28 PM)uncle poop Wrote: I have tried most of the systems out there. I have never heard of them making a dart fly better. Maybe extra weight with things like caps but I have not found any difference between the different set ups. Only thing I notice is that different systems wear better. I am a Cosmo user and I love the system, no fiddling with little bits and extra tools just screw in the stem and pop on the flight. The Harrows system is similar but you risk robinhoods with the open flight section where it clicks onto the stem.

If you want to change how the dart lands in the board I believe you can try different flight shapes and that will help. Depending on the surface of a flight that could lower and raise the tail of the dart.

Like u said.
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(10-07-2014, 01:12 AM)jamie373 Wrote: I'm wanting to get some molded flights and i'm not sure wither or not to buy cosmo , l-style, condor or harrows . as anyone used all or a few of these and can offer a comparison ? can these actually make a dart fly better , I'm not convinced that they can have any effect other then angle of entry into the dart board (vertically) as like any flight being at the very rear of a heavy object surely they just stop the arse of the dart over taking the front and aren't need purely to straighten out the flight path. is this wrong ? what are the other if any advantages of using these flights , one advantage i can think of and the reason for wanting them is flexibility of the stem. i know i can get quiver and other standard stems that bend , but i haven't liked any I've tried yet. i suppose this would rule out l-style or would it ? would this mean perhaps condor would be the best choice ? i use steel tip only and as yet i have no darts with storm points and currently using phase 2 Phil Taylor's so this i understand will effect the longevity of the flights . if using them long term I'd probably fit storms or at least use tridents , but how would a grip pattern such as the purist grip effect the plastic of the flight?

Ayup Jamie

These are the most durable and value for money moulded flight on the market.imo.
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(10-07-2014, 04:22 PM)jamie373 Wrote: thanks for all the answers lads ,

Cy the harrows clic you used , was that with smooth darts and storm points ? if so i think i can rule them out

Yes Jamie. That was with my normal darts. The problem with the Harrow Clic's is that there is too much surface area underneath with a standard flight. That makes it prone to splitting like mine did. There are the same complaints with Cosmo's. The reason my Super kites are holding up is because there is NO underneath really. Just an extreme taper to the top. So there's no material to split. With molded flights the main worry is with splits on the bottom of the flights.
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cheers Shed i was looking at them on DC earlier and i think i'll give them a go . at 60p a set you can't go wrong , cheers mate . i am swaying towards the cosmo system and think i'll buy a set of them too , just need to sell a set or 2 first .
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(10-07-2014, 05:54 PM)Cyanide Wrote:
(10-07-2014, 04:22 PM)jamie373 Wrote: thanks for all the answers lads ,

Cy the harrows clic you used , was that with smooth darts and storm points ? if so i think i can rule them out

Yes Jamie. That was with my normal darts. The problem with the Harrow Clic's is that there is too much surface area underneath with a standard flight. That makes it prone to splitting like mine did. There are the same complaints with Cosmo's. The reason my Super kites are holding up is because there is NO underneath really. Just an extreme taper to the top. So there's no material to split. With molded flights the main worry is with splits on the bottom of the flights.
i've been throwing today using dxm's and i think the cosmos i'll get will be w shape or super kite , thanks for the info
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