65 Out

[JayPro]

The general out for this seems to be 25 D20.

Gary Anderson just did what I worry about when using that route. He hit the double, which leaves 15. If you miss either side of the setup, you bust almost no matter which route you take.

Wouldn't T15 be a better option first dart? My thinking is this:

If you miss into the single, you have two darts at 50. Two darts left, T10/D10. A single leaves you double top.

Also 15 and 10 are right next to each other. Not so much moving around. A miss into single or treble 10 first dart leaves a single 15 setup for D10 or D20

I'm sure there are even better options, but this just occurred to me watching the Anderson/Taylor game.

[mc1958]

By a similar score if you hit a single 15 to leave 50 then you could hit either side of the set up shot and not leave yourself a dart at a double - personally I think you may just as well go for the 25 first dart.

[TheJug]

I like T19 D4

Single 19 leaves a % favourable two-dart 46 (6 or 10 with 2nd dart)

[JayPro]

@TheJug: That makes sense too.

[Banned]

I suppose this depends on your skill level. The better players will go at the 25 for a chance to have 2 darts at a double. Any other way you go only leaves 1 dart at a double.

If you're going at any treble 1st dart and really think you might hit it, then you're good enough to go at the bull and give yourself a 50% higher chance at winning the leg. 2 darts compared to one.

Of course, there's always the chance of hitting the bullseye. That sort of throws a monkey wrench in the plans.

[slot]

I like T19 D4

Single 19 leaves a % favourable two-dart 46 (6 or 10 with 2nd dart)

Didnt know this one lol, i will take this one!

[JayPro]

That was my point. That exact thing happened to Gary Anderson during his match with Taylor.

[Spartan]

I go for 25 tops. 19s is good route also

[Banned]

That was my point. That exact thing happened to Gary Anderson during his match with Taylor.

Yep. It happens. But everyone doesn't desire to play the best. They just want to play darts or go out and have a drink and be social. In that case, go some other way other then the 25 route.

But every single pro that I've seen goes at the 25 with 65 left. These guys depend on winning to pay the bills.

And here's an example of going 19's with 65 left and the opponent is back on 177. You hit treble 19 1st dart. Come inside with the 2nd dart at double 4 and go high on double 2 with the last dart. Now you're stuck on mad house for absolutely no reason.

[brenthahn]

I like T19 D4

Single 19 leaves a % favourable two-dart 46 (6 or 10 with 2nd dart)

Didnt know this one lol, i will take this one!

On 46 I'd go 6 or 14, but probably not 10.

[TheJug]

I like T19 D4

Single 19 leaves a % favourable two-dart 46 (6 or 10 with 2nd dart)

Didnt know this one lol, i will take this one!

On 46 I'd go 6 or 14, but probably not 10.

If you've only 2 darts in hand with 46 left it'd have to be with 6 & 10 being nextdoor to one another it gives room for error as a pull into either T6 or T10 or either Double will still leave you a dart at a double with the last dart.

If I'd 3 in hand at 46 then I'd probably go 14's too

[ChrisTheFish]

Why not T11, D16 ? single will leave 54 and that's straight forward too.

[TheJug]

Why not T11, D16 ? single will leave 54 and that's straight forward too.

yeah, another decent route

[TheJug]

this page is worth a read

https://ricksmith.ca/Darts/dartsouts.htm

[Bigshow]

Why not T11, D16 ? single will leave 54 and that's straight forward too.

This is my preferred route. It allows some wiggle room too.