I have had some good luck modifying my darts with steel and diamond files but have been trying to etch and remove material chemically. I know acids won't work but I heard that bases can ruin tungsten rings and such. I tried some acids anyway, didn't do anything. Tried some bases (even 15% h2o2), didn't do anything. Tried electro etching, didn't do anything. Anyone have any suggestions? Maybe a chemistry teacher out there?Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
Does anyone know how to chemically etch tungsten?
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06-14-2014, 09:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-14-2014, 09:44 PM by Cankles of Fury.)
I'll look into this for you. I will say 15% h2o2 isn't a strong base at all. You'd probably have better luck using lye or bleach. What kind of result are you wanting to achieve?
Acids and bases are both corrosive and if it's not reacting I'm guessing the acids you are using just aren't strong enough. I should go test out some 12M sulfuric acid but I hate dealing with that stuff :p
Not really sure what I want to achieve. Maybe just some pitting maybe grooves or spots, who knows. Just like playing with my darts. I recently modded a tomahawk and etched the head with salt water and a couple batteries. I though it was cool and wanted to try something like that on my darts. Also the h2o2 was just because of the oxidative qualities as well.
https://www.cleanroom.byu.edu/wet_etch.phtml
1 : 1 HF : HNO3 1 : 1 HF : HNO3 – thin films 3 : 7 HF : HNO3 4 : 1 HF : HNO3 – rapid attack 1 : 2 NH4OH : H2O2 – thin films good for etching tungsten from stainless steel, glass, copper and ceramics. Will etch titanium as well. 305g : 44.5g : 1000ml K3Fe(CN)6 : NaOH : H2O – rapid etch HCl – slow etch (dilute or concentrated) HNO3 – very slow etch (dilute or concentrated) H2SO4 – slow etch (dilute or concentrated) HF – slow etch (dilute or concentrated) H2O2 1 : 1, 30% : 70%, or 4 : 1 HF : HNO3 1 : 2 NH4OH : H2O2 4 : 4 : 3 HF HNO3 : HAc CBrF3 RIE etch 305g : 44.5g : 1000ml K3Fe(CN)6 : NaOH : H2O – very rapid etch HCl solutions – slow attack HNO3 – slight attack Aqua Regia 3 : 1 HCL : HNO3 – slow attack when hot or warm H2SO4 dilute and concentrated – slow etch HF dilute and concentrated – slow etch Alkali with oxidizers (KNO3 and PbO2) – rapid etch H2O2 ...and For selectivity you should choose an alkaline etch with not too high pH. The etchant has to be oxidizing. In my opinion from the above page those two could be candidates: 1 : 2 NH4OH : H2O2 305g : 44.5g : 1000ml K3Fe(CN)6 : NaOH : H2O
This makes sense... bleach will etch and discolor a barrel, but vinegar will not.
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