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Mark Webster 23g darts review

This is a review of the Winmau 2014 model of Mark Websters darts, they are available in 3 weights 21,23,25 grams and are 90% tungsten, they retail for £23.90, this is a review of the 23g model.

When I first seen these darts I liked the look of them so was eager to give them a try, they come in the usual Winmau packaging with 3 medium nylon stems with stem rings, 3 Mark Webster standard shape flights and supplied with a plastic case and point protector. The inlay on the packaging has a handy check out chart printed on it:



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The barrels have a nice classic look to them with a bull nose and ring grip pattern, but there is a kind of indented scallop where the thin ring grip is, I think that grip is a kind of wave grip but its not very grippy, I would say overall the grip of the barrels is only a low medium:


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As you can see from the pics the thin wave style grip is also at the rear of the barrel and there is a wide smooth section with the spider logo on it. I presume Webby must hold the dart on or near these thin wave grips but I was holding it near the front on the normal style rings.

DIMENSIONS:

Length:


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Width:

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Full barrel dimensions:

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Weight:

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Full setup:

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The barrels are within 9 100th's of gram matched and at worse 3.5 tenths over 23g. So fairly closely matched, the box does state the darts will be within 0.1 of a gram matched but +/- 0.2 of the nominated weight, I weighed them at just slightly over that but my scales will not be as accurate as theirs so I am not going to complain over that! Its more than close enough for my feeble skills! Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.


Balance point with nothing attached seems to be a little front weighted which I thought was curious as the indented scallop no doubt takes away some of the front of barrels weight:


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Balance with the supplied set up moves it closer to centre point:


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Balance with my own medium, short and extra short nylon stems and standard flights:


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My normal grip on these darts:


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How the darts landed in the board for me:

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Conclusion:

I was kind of disappointed with these darts, not so much in the darts themselves but more so that they did not seem to suit me. I was looking forward to trying them and felt sure I would get on well with them but for some reason they did not work well for me. Whether its the balance of the dart or me just not throwing them right I can't say really. I got some to fly nicely but most of them had some fishtailing and were landed a bit slanted in the board. I tried throwing them from the slightly scalloped part but it was worse. I think its just me and they just don't suit my throw which is a shame as I liked the look of them. I think they would probably suit players who have a flatter harder throw than me but it could be just that they don't suit my front grip and loopy throw Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

They are nice looking darts and its a classic shape and size barrel but I wonder if that slight indented scallop has affected the balance a little?

Summary Ratings:

Looks: 8 (nice looking darts)
Grip: 5 (on a 1 to 10 Scale, 10 been severe grip) Only a low medium grip
Weight match: 7 (fairly close)
Quality: 8 (nice quality)
Value: 8.5 (very reasonable)
Suitability for me: 5 (I like the look of them but they don't work well for me)

Best Feature: The look
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Awesome review as always!

And yes, they look like they want to be thrown flat and zippy.

Sometimes the grips on these player darts seem like such a hodgepodge -- I'd be interested in seeing a closeup of one of these in Webster's hand, to see how the grip works for him.
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(04-02-2014, 04:25 PM)brenthahn Wrote: Awesome review as always!

And yes, they look like they want to be thrown flat and zippy.

Sometimes the grips on these player darts seem like such a hodgepodge -- I'd be interested in seeing a closeup of one of these in Webster's hand, to see how the grip works for him.

looking at this i would say he will not really touch the grip on the front of the dart at all??

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Thanks Brent, good pic Rich, that shows his grip well!

I guess its always an issue with players darts though, they may not suit others because they have been made for that person specifically. But also if I was a much better player I would or should be able to throw anything but there will always be a shape/grip/balance or weight that feels best Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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Wow. I don't think my thumb would bend that way even if I wanted it to. And at the release point, would the dart be pointed down?
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once again Darren has done a great job on the review! thx mate.
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Another great review by mr. getagrip.
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I agree great review as always. I love all the close up pics.
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Thanks guys!

I like to show the close ups, that one pic alone can tell a lot of info Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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Great review as always mate.

What camera do you use ?
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Thanks Fred!

Its a Lumix Lx7 but I am looking at getting a DSLR soon, just no idea what to buy!
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It makes nice pics mate.

Your hold of the barrel is the same as me
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(04-02-2014, 07:22 PM)Fred Raket Wrote: It makes nice pics mate.

Your hold of the barrel is the same as me

yeah its a good camera, I just fancy getting a dslr though Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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