posted in old forum by dannyd180:
I recently bought some Phase 6 darts which I absolutely love, the only thing that I was unhappy with was the 'lip' where the point meets the barrel. I seemed to be getting a lot of deflections and felt that it was causing damage to my flights. I decided that I wanted them re-pointed with Target Storm points, but my dilemma was that I don't have a re-pointing machine, and I am too impatient to send my darts off and wait for them to be returned. I do however own a rivet gun and had read on here that it was possible, so I thought, why not.....
I ordered some storm points yesterday, they cam this morning and I set about it. I practiced removing the points from an older cheaper dart first to make sure that it worked
This is the dart that I wanted to re-point:
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Here is the tools that I used, the back of my old dartboard was my work surface (ignore the junior hacksaw):
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The first thing I did was select the correct collet size for my rivet gun, opened the handles and then inserted the dart, point first - as far as it would go:
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The I held the barrel of the dart in one hand, and squeezed the handles of the rivet gun together, and this pulled the point from the dart as easy as can be:
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When I read about this method previously, somebody said that it damages the points of the darts. I found with my rivet gun (Stanley) that is leaves a series of grooves towards the end of the point that almost resemble board grippers and I think they would work quite nicely:
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Then I had to get the new points in the barrels. this was the tricky part. I said ignore the junior hacksaw, but what I had used that for was to cut down an old plastic stem, which I inserted into the barrel, so that I could hit it with my hammer to drive the point into the barrel, using the reverse side of my old dartbaord as my surface. However, although this worked when practicing putting original points back into older darts, the storm points are too tight of a fit in my unicorn darts and caused the stem to shear, leaving the thread in the barrel. Not difficult to remove, but I would not advise this method. Obviously the plastic is weaker than tungsten and this was always going to happen, but it was early in the morning, so you have to give me that one:
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As I said, the fit of the storm point with this barrel is very very tight, so I ended up using some silicone lubricant and a smaller collet than that which I used to remove to points, put the point through the back of it and then used the flat face on the other side to hit with my hammer whilst resting the rear of the barrel on my work surface:
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After a few firm blows, the point was 'driven home', and the beauty of the storm points is that the 'collar' allows you to guide the point in true. Here is the finished article:
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I'm very happy with the result and I haven't noticed any real different in the balance of the dart, and from a small practice session they do seem to be an improvement.
replies from old forum:
McInnis180
Great How to Danny!!!!!!
dartbord
Well done. You are set to go into business.
getagrip
Yeah very good tutorial Danny!
Hazza
Nice one Danny, they look great too
the_cutter
thanks for sharing!
nice darts!
Saber
nice one Danny! How long it take btw.
Del
Well done mate great wee how to there
Big Gun
Good job mate but I invested in a £40-00 machine and it was worth every penny as I can change a set of point on under 5 mins and I can do it as often as I want to. You will find now though that after having the Storm points in that normal point are sometimes loser when you change them back as they are very slightly wider, but a drop of lock-tight glue in the hole and the point stays put but just a word of warning for future reference. I love the Storm point though and never use anything else just cant make my mind up between smooth or grooved lol
I recently bought some Phase 6 darts which I absolutely love, the only thing that I was unhappy with was the 'lip' where the point meets the barrel. I seemed to be getting a lot of deflections and felt that it was causing damage to my flights. I decided that I wanted them re-pointed with Target Storm points, but my dilemma was that I don't have a re-pointing machine, and I am too impatient to send my darts off and wait for them to be returned. I do however own a rivet gun and had read on here that it was possible, so I thought, why not.....
I ordered some storm points yesterday, they cam this morning and I set about it. I practiced removing the points from an older cheaper dart first to make sure that it worked
This is the dart that I wanted to re-point:
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Here is the tools that I used, the back of my old dartboard was my work surface (ignore the junior hacksaw):
Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
The first thing I did was select the correct collet size for my rivet gun, opened the handles and then inserted the dart, point first - as far as it would go:
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The I held the barrel of the dart in one hand, and squeezed the handles of the rivet gun together, and this pulled the point from the dart as easy as can be:
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When I read about this method previously, somebody said that it damages the points of the darts. I found with my rivet gun (Stanley) that is leaves a series of grooves towards the end of the point that almost resemble board grippers and I think they would work quite nicely:
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Then I had to get the new points in the barrels. this was the tricky part. I said ignore the junior hacksaw, but what I had used that for was to cut down an old plastic stem, which I inserted into the barrel, so that I could hit it with my hammer to drive the point into the barrel, using the reverse side of my old dartbaord as my surface. However, although this worked when practicing putting original points back into older darts, the storm points are too tight of a fit in my unicorn darts and caused the stem to shear, leaving the thread in the barrel. Not difficult to remove, but I would not advise this method. Obviously the plastic is weaker than tungsten and this was always going to happen, but it was early in the morning, so you have to give me that one:
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As I said, the fit of the storm point with this barrel is very very tight, so I ended up using some silicone lubricant and a smaller collet than that which I used to remove to points, put the point through the back of it and then used the flat face on the other side to hit with my hammer whilst resting the rear of the barrel on my work surface:
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After a few firm blows, the point was 'driven home', and the beauty of the storm points is that the 'collar' allows you to guide the point in true. Here is the finished article:
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I'm very happy with the result and I haven't noticed any real different in the balance of the dart, and from a small practice session they do seem to be an improvement.
replies from old forum:
McInnis180
Great How to Danny!!!!!!
dartbord
Well done. You are set to go into business.
getagrip
Yeah very good tutorial Danny!
Hazza
Nice one Danny, they look great too
the_cutter
thanks for sharing!
nice darts!
Saber
nice one Danny! How long it take btw.
Del
Well done mate great wee how to there
Big Gun
Good job mate but I invested in a £40-00 machine and it was worth every penny as I can change a set of point on under 5 mins and I can do it as often as I want to. You will find now though that after having the Storm points in that normal point are sometimes loser when you change them back as they are very slightly wider, but a drop of lock-tight glue in the hole and the point stays put but just a word of warning for future reference. I love the Storm point though and never use anything else just cant make my mind up between smooth or grooved lol
