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Help with Steel tips needed
Hello everybody,
Need some professional advice on some new Steel tips.

Been playing with 21gr. Shot darts on a Puma Bandit Board, but the Board is rather hard compare to a Harrows.
The problem is that I been loosing to many Darts from fallouts and I want to retip the Darts now.
Could You please advice on some good Steel Tips [ also where to get them from ] which are ringed or so
for better hold in the board.
I certainly have sharp points and regular freshen them up with sandpaper.

Cheers
Mario
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Next time you freshen the points use some 80 grit and rough up the point across the metal and not along the length. This should make the points a bit more rough and grip much better in the board. As for buying new points, any dart supplier locally or on-line can supply you with new ones.

The problem many see with the ringed points is they destroy a board much faster than the smooth points, especially the bullseye if playing a lot of Cricket where the bull is needed every game.
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Cheers Mate,

I hear what You saying with the ringed ones, as I use a few same dart sets [ 2 for practice and one for the games that count ] I certainly would not destroy
my boards faster, but in the last few weeks I lost 3 180's counts due to the last treble 20's dart falling out. It would be only for the competition set I need new grippy points, the ones which fall out during practice don't worry me at all.
I also do on regular basis what You suggested.

Maybe I need to throw harder. LOL
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Have you considered storm points?
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Hello Mario and welcome to the forum!

I had a Bulls 2 board that was very hard for the first 6 months or so, lost a few 180's because of it. Points needed to be sharp to be effective at sticking in, but I preferred black points as they were more likely to hold in the board, scuffing would help too but I would only scuff about 4mm at the front of the point.

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I missed that many 180's the other night when practicing. Not because the darts fell out of the board but because I hit an 11, 1 and a 20.

If you hit that many 180's then I would not change your throw. Are these darts hitting the board and barely staying in? Are they hitting the wire and deflecting in and barely staying? Try the storm points like Saber suggested (I am loving mine) and see how that works. If you are still having problems maybe add a little oomph to your throw.
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Gyday from Oz Kiwi and welcome.
I to have a Bandit board (hate it)
They are like bricks, if you have that sorta throw that flick in the board at the last second then you will be picking them up off the floor all night.
Black tips do grip better than stainless tips,but I have found that thinning them out at the end help a great deal in getting a deeper perpetration in these boards, A storm tip will not help as they are quite meaty at the business end and I have seen these boards squeeze the silver ones out like a pimple minutes after they have been thrown. There are tips on the market that are a different shape than the standard tip, in which they are thinner near the tip and dont need to be manually thinned any further but it wouldn't hurt to do so. The only place I have seen them is from [email=https://www.a-zdarts.com/]A-Z DARTS[/email] and they are called thoroughbreds.
There is also a couple of other tips called harpoons on the site but I dont think these will be as effective as they are quite meaty at the initial point, its the deep penetration we need on this particular board, so I would stick to the thoroughbreds, but you could try them and maybe even thin them as well for a good hold.
Below is a link and I have put some pics for easy comparison.

https://www.a-zdarts.com/Category/Access...ement.aspx
https://www.a-zdarts.com/Category/Access...Labor.aspx

------STANDARD---------THOROUGHBRED---------BROAD POINT---------BROAD HEAD
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Scuff, scuff, scuff!!!!

I use a belt sander with fine grit paper,you only have to just touch them once a week
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Thanks Guys for the great advice, will certainly give it a go.
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Gday Kiwi.

try the broadhead points. I have a set of the shot broad head conversion points and they do not come out. They even take more effort to remove from the board than normal points.

I use them if I am playing on a real soft or loosely packed board and have no problems.
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(12-26-2013, 08:02 PM)DIRTY G Wrote: Gyday from Oz Kiwi and welcome.
I to have a Bandit board (hate it)
They are like bricks, if you have that sorta throw that flick in the board at the last second then you will be picking them up off the floor all night.
Black tips do grip better than stainless tips,but I have found that thinning them out at the end help a great deal in getting a deeper perpetration in these boards, A storm tip will not help as they are quite meaty at the business end and I have seen these boards squeeze the silver ones out like a pimple minutes after they have been thrown. There are tips on the market that are a different shape than the standard tip, in which they are thinner near the tip and dont need to be manually thinned any further but it wouldn't hurt to do so. The only place I have seen them is from [email=https://www.a-zdarts.com/]A-Z DARTS[/email] and they are called thoroughbreds.
There is also a couple of other tips called harpoons on the site but I dont think these will be as effective as they are quite meaty at the initial point, its the deep penetration we need on this particular board, so I would stick to the thoroughbreds, but you could try them and maybe even thin them as well for a good hold.
Below is a link and I have put some pics for easy comparison.

https://www.a-zdarts.com/Category/Access...ement.aspx
https://www.a-zdarts.com/Category/Access...Labor.aspx

------STANDARD---------THOROUGHBRED---------BROAD POINT---------BROAD HEAD
[Image: https://www.a-zdarts.com/images/accessor...tn_lps.jpg][Image: https://www.a-zdarts.com/images/accessor..._tbstd.jpg][Image: https://www.a-zdarts.com/images/accessor...da1228.jpg][Image: https://www.a-zdarts.com/images/accessor...sm3828.jpg]

Scuff, scuff, scuff!!!!

I use a belt sander with fine grit paper,you only have to just touch them once a week


Thanks Mate,

Great to hear that You know the problem with the Puma Boards and I reckon the thoroughbred tip is the answer.

Thanks so much for the link, I didn't know this dart shop but will order some on the weekend.

Cheers
Mario
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No problem Mario
I think the thoroughbred is your best option

A-Z darts is a reputable company in the US abit more expensive than some of the UK stores.

I found the thoroughbreds just after I modified some standard tips lol

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It was done with a drill and a belt sander before they went into the barrel, I then finished them off by hand on the belt sander while they were in the barrel to get them as close as each other as possible. (lots of dipping in water to keep the temper)

See the whole post here -------> Long point balance fix
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Beeing a Puma Bandit board you may need this in the very near future. LOL

CLICK -------> HERE
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(12-27-2013, 05:16 AM)DIRTY G Wrote: Beeing a Puma Bandit board you may need this in the very near future. LOL

CLICK -------> HERE


:goodjob:

I must say that I wouldn't have the patience to do such a job, Good on Ya Mate.

BTW: I missed the NEW ZEALAND MADE writing on the board??

guess that's why they are a bit cheaper, LOL
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Can I clarify that Storm points are not board grip points they are for resting your finger on when throwing for grip known as finger grip points. There are numerous points designed for gripping the board like the Target Diamond cut points and the Unicorn board grip points or even Unicorn knurled points. In my experience these are the points that pull out the sisal as they do exactly as they say and grip the sisal so the outcome is inevitable really, but a twisting motion when taking them out will help. I use a fine wet and dry paper for mine as you only need the surface of the point to not be smooth to gain grip in the board rather than having deep grooves in them by using a really rough grade paper.
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