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Champagne flights?
Hello guys, My name is Tim & have been playing soft tip for 15 Years now..
Being younger I always lacked knowledge on a good setup and am just getting "into" it now...
I currently play with
Phil taylor phase 2 purist 18gs
harrows graflite shafts, ruthless kite flights..

I ordered a few pear/tear drop flights to try and spinning shafts.
-Was wondering everyones opinion on them and also the champagne style flights? what are the positives and negatives?
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I'm no expert on soft tip, but aren't the champagne flights/caps to prevent robin hooding your stems on steel tip darts?
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is why im asking, they look fancy haha
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Champagne flights are nice and yes they do prevent robin hooding. They tend to last a while in steel tip so I would say that you would get a fair length of time out of them in soft tip.

Cosmo/Fit Flight seems to be the stem and flight choice of alot of the pro soft tippers.

At the end of the day though, it is just a matter of preference as to what you use. Try them all out and see if you feel comfortable with any of them.
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How about flight protectors on the end? I put them on my darts, they seemed to throw less consistently then without
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Hello Tim and welcome aboard.

I wouldnt bother with flight protectors myself, for soft tip I dont think they are that vital and for me personally I find them a pain when they come off.
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Also, with the champagne flights, they have a thicker edge to protect the flight from hits. It is at the front and back ends of the flight.
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Champagne flights REDUCE robin hooding they do not prevent it! Same for fit flights!
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(12-19-2013, 10:17 AM)Gary60 Wrote: Champagne flights REDUCE robin hooding they do not prevent it! Same for fit flights!

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(12-19-2013, 11:18 AM)Getagrip Wrote:
(12-19-2013, 10:17 AM)Gary60 Wrote: Champagne flights REDUCE robin hooding they do not prevent it! Same for fit flights!

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I've done it twice with the shell lock and once on a fit flight. I'm pretty sure I read on the forum somewhere about a pro doing it recently too!
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With soft tip you can pretty much use what ever stem and flight you like. I have never seen a robin hood with soft tip (although I could be wrong). You need to find what works for you and what you like. I just started using the Fit Flights, the spinning ones and I am loving them so far. No fighting to get flights into the stems, no worries about the flights coming out of plastic stems because the tines that hold the flight have become loose. I also have found the spinning stems keep my darts close without them being deflected all over the place (well when I get them close).

Like has been said already it is what works for you. And Welcome!!!!
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A few years ago, while using an Aluminum stem and Poly flights, I managed to Robin Hood my 3rd dart. The worst part was, this was while shooting a Hat Trick. The board registered the shot, which was awesome, and honestly I was more happy about the Hat Trick than anything and didn't really notice the Robin Hood at first. I really wish someone would have taken a picture of it at the time.

This wasn't during league play or anything, so nobody was "butthurt" over the scoring. I think we were all 1/2 drunk anyhow and enjoyed the good laugh.

Although I have NOT used the Cosmo Fit Flights or L-Styles, did talk with a player the other night who uses the Cosmo's and she seems to love them. Durability was also said to be good, but honestly, her grouping are not tight either so.... She does however use a rather heavy barrel (22g), and throw them like rockets.

I've researched the Fit Flights quite a bit recently, and will most likely give them a try sometime later this year once I get things a bit more dialed in. The biggest draw back seems to be cost, but if you destroy normal flights and shafts, do the math.

From my understanding, the Fit Flight Airs are popular for Soft Tip players, over the regular Fit Flights. Personally, I think I would give them a try with the GEAR Slim stems. Some players report using the spinning stems, and modifying them with a tiny piece of paper to reduce the amount of spin. Trial and error I suspect. If your pockets are deep, try the Carbon or Titanium stems. These should last damn near forever in the soft tip game.

The more I research, the more I am turned off off L-style. Not that it's a bad product, but to me, the hassle and cost just do not add up for me at this point. They are pretty, but my game is ugly!
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Fit Flights are good but can be expensive, review here: https://www.dartsnutz.net/showthread.php?tid=2534 I think they will be best suited for soft tip but I have used them a lot with steel tip.
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I prefer L-Style over Cosmo but both nice systems
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(12-19-2013, 03:53 PM)Scars Wrote: A few years ago, while using an Aluminum stem and Poly flights, I managed to Robin Hood my 3rd dart. The worst part was, this was while shooting a Hat Trick. The board registered the shot, which was awesome, and honestly I was more happy about the Hat Trick than anything and didn't really notice the Robin Hood at first. I really wish someone would have taken a picture of it at the time.

This wasn't during league play or anything, so nobody was "butthurt" over the scoring. I think we were all 1/2 drunk anyhow and enjoyed the good laugh.

Although I have NOT used the Cosmo Fit Flights or L-Styles, did talk with a player the other night who uses the Cosmo's and she seems to love them. Durability was also said to be good, but honestly, her grouping are not tight either so.... She does however use a rather heavy barrel (22g), and throw them like rockets.

I've researched the Fit Flights quite a bit recently, and will most likely give them a try sometime later this year once I get things a bit more dialed in. The biggest draw back seems to be cost, but if you destroy normal flights and shafts, do the math.

From my understanding, the Fit Flight Airs are popular for Soft Tip players, over the regular Fit Flights. Personally, I think I would give them a try with the GEAR Slim stems. Some players report using the spinning stems, and modifying them with a tiny piece of paper to reduce the amount of spin. Trial and error I suspect. If your pockets are deep, try the Carbon or Titanium stems. These should last damn near forever in the soft tip game.

The more I research, the more I am turned off off L-style. Not that it's a bad product, but to me, the hassle and cost just do not add up for me at this point. They are pretty, but my game is ugly!

I throw steeltip and use Cosmo Fit Flight carbon stems and light flights. Never had a Robinhood or damaged shaft and I've been throwing them in paractice and tourneys for a while. The issue with the standard shape regular stiff flights as opposed to the light flexable variety is the stiffer standard flights will cut... almost like a razor, the fins off, or nick pieces off... kinda weird. The light flexibles not at all. Pricey but durable. No going through that little obsesive-compulsive thingy with shaping and inspecting tines and straightening (think Dynastar wire shafts) your darts after every throw. Highly recomended.
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