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Harrows Alamo vs Harrows Gyro
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Alamo: https://www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?...34_829_437

Gyro: https://www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?...4_829_1906

I am looking at buying a few sets of the Alamo and Gyro stems and wanted to know the pros and cons of both sets:

What is the thickest flight I can use with them?

Are the flights able to be fully pushed into the stem?

What shape flights do you/have you use with them?

Do the stems rattle or come loose?

What are/have been your best experiences with these stems?

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I used to use the Alamo shafts and they were very good. I used 100 micron flights and they went in no problem but they do hold 75 micron very well. I did try the gyro but to be honest I was not impressed. They are a nice tight spin when new but they became loose and noisy very quickly which I found off putting
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I also used almo a lot, but they bend really quick, and break easy with tight grouping. They do hold the flights really well. and thats why i use them. but now normal stems titanium ring, and punch the flights.Now the flight holds great on a normal stem.
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(01-08-2017, 04:27 AM)DanGoldsmith180 Wrote: Hi all!

Alamo: https://www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?...34_829_437

Gyro: https://www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?...4_829_1906

I am looking at buying a few sets of the Alamo and Gyro stems and wanted to know the pros and cons of both sets:

What is the thickest flight I can use with them? Alloy tops, so 75 mics are good, unless you slide an art cutter blade in, then a 100 is a tight fit.

Are the flights able to be fully pushed into the stem? Depending on the thickness, and how far you slide the blade in.

What shape flights do you/have you use with them? You can use any style of flights really.

Do the stems rattle or come loose? Not mine - EVER! Also NO RATTLE.   Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.  Not even the one gyro I've had for close to 30 years, but you guys know me, and what i do to my equipment!  :carrot:

What are/have been your best experiences with these stems? Cheap and good though the medium Gyro tends to be a bit soft. NO breaks from clashing darts - ever, as well on the Gyros. No breaks on the short Alamo, but can't say about the medium Alamo because i don't think I use them much.

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I used to use both Alamo and Gyro in the past. I remember that I didn't like the rattle of Gyros but then when I broke them and got back to using the Alamo, I missed that rattle .-)

Anyway, I also liked the Unicorn Grippers 360 (the black ones those days). Similar concept, thicker stems.
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Pros for me are (as someone who used the Alamo for a while) they hold the flight well and they don't rattle.

Main con though is the fact that the aluminium is the top and not the base so you've got all the problems in the world when you Robin Hood it! Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

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Current setup:

Cosmo Juggler Queen 2nd 400 (18g) + One80 Reflex conversion points
Cosmo Carbon #8 locked stem
Cosmo Fit Flight Juggler yellow (ocean design)

High checkout: 124 (T20, T14, D11, steeltip)
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The only drawback with the Harrow's Alamo and Gyro are that the tops do tend to be broken if you do a robin hood or hit the flight of your dart if it sticking out of the board at an angle. Depending on how tight you group your throws you will break between one per week to 3 per day if you throw on a daily basis. They are though dirt cheap if you bulk order.
For some this is a massive drawback and they do find it off putting and they tend to hate them. Personally I love them and will explain below why.

First of all, they do grip flights very tightly. It is very rare that I flight pops out. I use thin 75 micron flights since I wish them to be as soft and flexible as possible, and still they stick like they are glued to the stem. You can easily use 100 micron flights, and if you are careful you attach 150s. So, if you like your flights to stick without the hassle of using rings and punched flights this is a good option.

They bend... If you tight group your arrows the stems will bend so that they fit tighter, they will look crooked afterwards. But, just a few second later they will have morphed back into straightness again.

(Gyros) They are the cheapest spinners around and the spin quality is actually quite impressive for the rather modest price. I do not find them to be "rattly" enough to be off putting, in the beginning they are quite firm and it takes a good while before they start to rattle. And by then you will have robinhooded the crapola out of it anyways, so at least mine never rattles.

I have tried every single spinner on the market, and I always go back to the Gyros since they are the best in function and price for the job I wish them to do. Others may prefer other brands, we are after all different. I would though advice to stay away from Unicorns version since the plastic is oddly brittle and will break at the threads leaving that pesky thread-plug to remove (not fun in the middle of a game).

In the end Alamos and Gyros are not the everyman answer to stems, they are specialist items. But if you wish for flights-grippy stems that are flexible (and spin), and do not mind buying them in bulk, then they are the bees-knees.

Both Alamos and Gyros are £0.60 plus freight from my preferred stockist. Realistically expect a full set to go per week, so not that expensive compared to the bone-chilling monetary dread of snapping a Cosmo carbon...
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(07-24-2017, 10:26 AM)Iceberg Wrote: The only drawback with the Harrow's Alamo and Gyro are that the tops do tend to be broken if you do a robin hood or hit the flight of your dart if it sticking out of the board at an angle. Depending on how tight you group your throws you will break between one per week to 3 per day if you throw on a daily basis. They are though dirt cheap if you bulk order.
For some this is a massive drawback and they do find it off putting and they tend to hate them. Personally I love them and will explain below why.

First of all, they do grip flights very tightly. It is very rare that I flight pops out. I use thin 75 micron flights since I wish them to be as soft and flexible as possible, and still they stick like they are glued to the stem. You can easily use 100 micron flights, and if you are careful you attach 150s. So, if you like your flights to stick without the hassle of using rings and punched flights this is a good option.

They bend... If you tight group your arrows the stems will bend so that they fit tighter, they will look crooked afterwards. But, just a few second later they will have morphed back into straightness again.

(Gyros) They are the cheapest spinners around and the spin quality is actually quite impressive for the rather modest price. I do not find them to be "rattly" enough to be off putting, in the beginning they are quite firm and it takes a good while before they start to rattle. And by then you will have robinhooded the crapola out of it anyways, so at least mine never rattles.

I have tried every single spinner on the market, and I always go back to the Gyros since they are the best in function and price for the job I wish them to do. Others may prefer other brands, we are after all different. I would though advice to stay away from Unicorns version since the plastic is oddly brittle and will break at the threads leaving that pesky thread-plug to remove (not fun in the middle of a game).

In the end Alamos and Gyros are not the everyman answer to stems, they are specialist items. But if you wish for flights-grippy stems that are flexible (and spin), and do not mind buying them in bulk, then they are the bees-knees.

Both Alamos and Gyros are £0.60 plus freight from my preferred stockist. Realistically expect a full set to go per week, so not that expensive compared to the bone-chilling monetary dread of snapping a Cosmo carbon...

+1 for you! You make some great points and have tempted me to go back to the short Alamo's so much! Cheers haha
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