Kwiz is an old name in the world of darts. So these are likely old technology but hey, they looked funky so I had to try them!
Anyway - here are the stems:
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You'll see they're made of metal, even the prongs, and have rubber tubes on. These slide up and down, and come off if you want - they're adjustable-length stems!
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This has been done recently with stems you can cut down to size, but these ones you don't have to. An interesting point about these darts is that 2 prongs are longer than the others:
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This is supposedly to help people with bad eyesight load flights into the stem. Fair dos!
Anyway, let's get some meausrements on. Here's how much a stem on its own weighs:
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One of the rubber tubes:
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And the full stem:
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Quite heavy then, but not for a metal stem. Here's a comparison to some more popular stems:
Target Pro Grip Spin
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Deflectagrip durable nylon
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Target Top Spin aluminium
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Target Power Shaft Gen-2 Titanium
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Here's the length of the prongs alone:
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And full length including thread:
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This is sold as a "medium" stem, so let's compare it to a medium stem!
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A bit longer then.
Now to how they work. The tubes allow you to vary the effective stem length, so here's some flights in them!
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Here's some setups compared to normal stems - starting with no tube vs an extra short:
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Tube at the bottom vs medium stem:
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Tube high up vs Cosmo #8 stem:
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If you cut the tube down to size, you could get shorter lengths with it on. But the variablity is fine as is for me!
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I, of course, would test with the longest configuration possible, so here's my 12g Nodor Sharks dressed up with them:
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They land in the board quite tail up with this setup but that's normal for me and standard flights.
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So I switched to some DXM flights and they went right down!
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Almost too far down for my liking. I tried moving the tube, but that doesn't affect angle much:
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And removing it altogether:
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It seems the only benefit of the adjustable length is characteristics of a longer stem. Doesn't seem to move balance or affect dart angle. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, as it means no extra weight of a longer stem!
These cost me just £1 from the shop I bought them from. I'd give these a 7/10 - they're a good idea, and I do like them, but you can have Target Pro Grip spin stems for the same money and I think they're just better, even though these can be adjusted!
Anyway - here are the stems:
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You'll see they're made of metal, even the prongs, and have rubber tubes on. These slide up and down, and come off if you want - they're adjustable-length stems!
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This has been done recently with stems you can cut down to size, but these ones you don't have to. An interesting point about these darts is that 2 prongs are longer than the others:
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This is supposedly to help people with bad eyesight load flights into the stem. Fair dos!
Anyway, let's get some meausrements on. Here's how much a stem on its own weighs:
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One of the rubber tubes:
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And the full stem:
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Quite heavy then, but not for a metal stem. Here's a comparison to some more popular stems:
Target Pro Grip Spin
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Deflectagrip durable nylon
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Target Top Spin aluminium
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Target Power Shaft Gen-2 Titanium
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Here's the length of the prongs alone:
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And full length including thread:
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This is sold as a "medium" stem, so let's compare it to a medium stem!
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A bit longer then.
Now to how they work. The tubes allow you to vary the effective stem length, so here's some flights in them!
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Here's some setups compared to normal stems - starting with no tube vs an extra short:
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Tube at the bottom vs medium stem:
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Tube high up vs Cosmo #8 stem:
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If you cut the tube down to size, you could get shorter lengths with it on. But the variablity is fine as is for me!
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I, of course, would test with the longest configuration possible, so here's my 12g Nodor Sharks dressed up with them:
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They land in the board quite tail up with this setup but that's normal for me and standard flights.
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So I switched to some DXM flights and they went right down!
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Almost too far down for my liking. I tried moving the tube, but that doesn't affect angle much:
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And removing it altogether:
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It seems the only benefit of the adjustable length is characteristics of a longer stem. Doesn't seem to move balance or affect dart angle. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, as it means no extra weight of a longer stem!
These cost me just £1 from the shop I bought them from. I'd give these a 7/10 - they're a good idea, and I do like them, but you can have Target Pro Grip spin stems for the same money and I think they're just better, even though these can be adjusted!
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"And the devil did grin; for his darling sin is pride that apes humility." - Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Current setup:
Cosmo Juggler Queen 2nd 400 (18g) + One80 Reflex conversion points
Cosmo Carbon #8 locked stem
Cosmo Fit Flight Juggler yellow (ocean design)
High checkout: 124 (T20, T14, D11, steeltip)
Best 501 leg: 20 darts
