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Soft tip darts for sweaty palmed beginner
Hi all,
I recently started playing electronic darts with mates down the pub.
We play cricket dubles at least 3 night per week and I need advice as we
are very competitive and I want to get the best darts I can.

I bought 19 gram Unicorn entry level darts like these and have been using them for a month:
https://doubletopdartshop.com/product.ph...-tip-darts
They are much better than the crap 12g plastic pub darts.
However I have sweaty palms and the grip is such that I feel I can't get a consistent firm grip.
I decided to use the 3 finger grip Gary Anderson uses as shown here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSeobR2u...hX&index=1
As I come from an archery background I know how a consistent grip is vital so I want to get some new darts
that will help with my sweaty palm and also make it easier to grip the dart in the same way consistently.

I know my level doesn't warrant tungsten darts as my groups are not close at all but looking at these 2 darts I feel
they may help with grip and positioning:

Looks like a very grippy dart due to rough surface:
https://www.harrowsdarts.com/softip-rang...5-tungsten

Looks gripy and shape seems like it will force me to grip in same place with my thumb and index finger:
https://www.harrowsdarts.com/softip-dart...polar-18gr

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Look at Pure darts the McCoy section https://www.puredarts.co.uk/mccoy-soft-tip-darts/
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(02-22-2016, 08:52 PM)*Saber* Wrote: Look at Pure darts the McCoy section https://www.puredarts.co.uk/mccoy-soft-tip-darts/

Should I look for the the heaviest (19g) darts?
Read somewhere that they are easiest to throw straight for novices...

Are shark fin or heavily knurled better for sweaty fingers?

These look good:
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/mccoy-soft-t...darts.html
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Welcome to DNF!

I'd say shark grips. Knurls tend to wear down faster. Or things like the pyramid or pixel grip.

Gary's darts are long and he grips them somewheres about middle I reckon, and his thumb on the back. Soft tip barrels like the McCoys are shorter, so I'd say go for your main grip area towwards the back, like the 008 to 011 models, or if you prefer a straight barrel, go for the Saber Grip or the Max. Both the latter would give you slightly more grip zone options. as for weight, the McCoys are 15.5g barrels only. You could add tungsten putty or lead to make them heavier, or look at the Winmau Sniper 20g/18g barrel only, Winmau Navigator 21g/19g barrel only, Winmau ST Jekyll #1 or #3 20g/18g barrel only, 

For sweaty hands, you could use Rosin. Hands which tend to be dry would work better with wax. An alternative is the Max Grip powder, which is said to be very effective. https://www.mightygripwholesale.com/wp-c...-tube1.png

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(02-22-2016, 08:56 PM)vjanda Wrote:
(02-22-2016, 08:52 PM)*Saber* Wrote: Look at Pure darts the McCoy section https://www.puredarts.co.uk/mccoy-soft-tip-darts/


Should I look for the the heaviest (19g) darts?
Read somewhere that they are easiest to throw straight for novices...

Are shark fin or heavily knurled better for sweaty fingers?

These look good:
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/mccoy-soft-t...darts.html

Heavy- shark
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purist grip is awesome for sweaty mitts... so is shark... and honestly a nice wide ring grip works great too

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Jugger and Ancient Darter are very correct.
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I'd say purist and shark grip are the grippiest types. Also - I started with tungsten darts. Skill level shouldn't necessarily dictate material used. Start as you mean to continue Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

McCoy range is a very good shout, and based on what you're asking for I'd reccomend any of the following sets Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...90-ta.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
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Cosmo Juggler Queen 2nd 400 (18g) + One80 Reflex conversion points
Cosmo Carbon #8 locked stem
Cosmo Fit Flight Juggler yellow (ocean design)

High checkout: 124 (T20, T14, D11, steeltip)
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(02-22-2016, 11:00 PM)jo$handaz Wrote: Heya! Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

I'd say purist and shark grip are the grippiest types. Also - I started with tungsten darts. Skill level shouldn't necessarily dictate material used. Start as you mean to continue Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

McCoy range is a very good shout, and based on what you're asking for I'd reccomend any of the following sets Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...90-ta.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html

Yes they all look suitable.
I'm just wondering about the weight.
Is 19g much better than 16g for a beginner?
The Harrorws are more expensive but I don't mind spending a five extra if the added weight is a plus. (big spender) Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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(02-22-2016, 11:11 PM)vjanda Wrote:
(02-22-2016, 11:00 PM)jo$handaz Wrote: Heya! Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

I'd say purist and shark grip are the grippiest types. Also - I started with tungsten darts. Skill level shouldn't necessarily dictate material used. Start as you mean to continue Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

McCoy range is a very good shout, and based on what you're asking for I'd reccomend any of the following sets Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...90-ta.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html


Yes they all look suitable.
I'm just wondering about the weight.
Is 19g much better than 16g for a beginner?
The Harrorws are more expensive but I don't mind spending a five extra if the added weight is a plus. (big spender) Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

19 grams is not better than 16 grams.... necessarily.... If you are currently playing with 19 grams, and it's comfortable, maybe stick with it and figure out your throwing motion before you go messing around with different dart weights.

That's all I would say about it.

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I had the same problem when I first started, purist type grip worked great I used the Phase 2 by unicorn, or also liked mentioned above a wide ring grip I have these shot darts that are probably some with the most grip I ownGuests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.


As far as weight 18g or 20g is good to start with. I honestly think balance of the dart is more important. I cant throw front weight I need center balanced.
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Here is a counter point ,,,,,for me sweaty or wet hands seem to be more sticky ,,,, I add that to a high level dart and I cannot get a clean release ,,, Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.,,,,,,Just maybe a smooth dart might just work ,,,, like a set of Hankey's,,,Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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(02-22-2016, 11:11 PM)vjanda Wrote:
(02-22-2016, 11:00 PM)jo$handaz Wrote: Heya! Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

I'd say purist and shark grip are the grippiest types. Also - I started with tungsten darts. Skill level shouldn't necessarily dictate material used. Start as you mean to continue Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

McCoy range is a very good shout, and based on what you're asking for I'd reccomend any of the following sets Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...90-ta.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html
https://www.puredarts.co.uk/soft-tip-dar...ip-90.html

Yes they all look suitable.
I'm just wondering about the weight.
Is 19g much better than 16g for a beginner?
The Harrorws are more expensive but I don't mind spending a five extra if the added weight is a plus. (big spender) Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

It's worth noting that softip weight is all up weight, not barrel weight. So, the 19g brass softips you mentioned are more likely to be 17.5g barrels. Add that to the fact they're made of brass and they'll feel more like 13g. Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

Dart weight is a weird thing; there's no "correct" one for a beginner (or any "correct" one for any skill level for that matter!). It's quite a subjective thing. In theory, yes, heavier barrels are easier to throw, but some people can't throw heavier darts.

I'd suggest grabbing a set of 18g softips if it were me, as it's similar to the 19g you throw now but since they're tungsten, not brass, they'll feel different, maybe a bit heavier. Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

You could always go lighter from there if you really wanted to. I throw 16g barrels but I'm a steeltip player using softips with conversion points so the barrel on its own is 14.5 grams or so Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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"And the devil did grin; for his darling sin is pride that apes humility." - Samuel Taylor Coleridge

Current setup:

Cosmo Juggler Queen 2nd 400 (18g) + One80 Reflex conversion points
Cosmo Carbon #8 locked stem
Cosmo Fit Flight Juggler yellow (ocean design)

High checkout: 124 (T20, T14, D11, steeltip)
Best 501 leg: 20 darts
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Strangest thing happened.
I was practicing round the clocks and was pissed off at my all over the place throwing.
I moved my thumb and index finger forward about 1/3" and all of a sudden my cheap Unicorn darts became much more accurate.
It never occurred to me that the balance point could have such an impact on flight and accuracy.
Can't wait for the next cricket tournament down the pub...
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