L-Style question

[MadMike4]

Looking to try L-Style spinners.  Is there a version that requires rings and another version requires Champagne caps??  It's necessary to get the proper flight for the appropriate stem?
by looking, can you tell if a shafts needs ring or Champagne cap?
Confused.  Thanks for help & guidance.

[Jugger]

Champagne with molded flights.

Shell caps with punched flights.

You don't want rings, it defeats the purpose of the system... The champagne/shell does not allow a point to penetrate and cause a robin hood.

[Crusher17]

^^^^ What he said

[Regulatori]

Easiest way to tell is if a shaft needs a ring/cap is to look at the edges at the end. If it's a squared off/open edge, it's for champagne caps/champagne flights. If the ends looks like a normal stem end with a taper/cone, it can be used with regular flights.

L Style and Laro are the same thing.
Laro spin shafts known as "Laro Silent" can be used with regular flights...they're at the bottom of the link. Notice how they taper at the end like a standard stem.
https://www.lstyleglobal.com/shaft/laro_shaft.html

All of the L-Shafts require a cap. Notice how the flight holders have a different shaped rear. If you didn't use a cap, your dart tip would catch one of those rear edges since they don't taper.
https://www.lstyleglobal.com/shaft/l_shaft.html

The L-Shafts also have a tiny canard looking wing to protect the edge of the flights.

[Ancient Darter]

For the short answer, what Jugger said.  Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

For the comprehensive run-through of the entire L-Style system: 

https://www.dartsnutz.net/forum/showthre...?tid=14397

[Scotty Burnett]

So, I will just leave this here....

[Crusher17]

Watch out DeNiro here comes Scotty B lol

[Scotty Burnett]

Bob is safe. Yea us actors are allowed to call him Bob. Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.

[*Saber*]

Excellent Scotty - very nice review. I have never used L-shafts (I use Cosmo) but after watching your vid got to give them a try bub. Of course buying from A_Z Scotty B  Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images. Plus 2 btw

[Tormentor]

The new silent carbon are very nice, quite an upgrade from the original silent stems. No rattle on the carbons

[MadMike4]

Easiest way to tell is if a shaft needs a ring/cap is to look at the edges at the end. If it's a squared off/open edge, it's for champagne caps/champagne flights. If the ends looks like a normal stem end with a taper/cone, it can be used with regular flights.

L Style and Laro are the same thing.
Laro spin shafts known as "Laro Silent" can be used with regular flights...they're at the bottom of the link. Notice how they taper at the end like a standard stem.
https://www.lstyleglobal.com/shaft/laro_shaft.html

All of the L-Shafts require a cap. Notice how the flight holders have a different shaped rear. If you didn't use a cap, your dart tip would catch one of those rear edges since they don't taper.
https://www.lstyleglobal.com/shaft/l_shaft.html

The L-Shafts also have a tiny canard looking wing to protect the edge of the flights.

Great explanation.  Thanks.  Do you agree that the champagne is the preferred system to own?

[Regulatori]

Champagne with molded flights.

Shell caps with punched flights.

You don't want rings, it defeats the purpose of the system... The champagne/shell does not allow a point to penetrate and cause a robin hood.

He's asking about stems, not flights.
If you by L-Shafts, you HAVE to use either a....
-molded Champagne flights and Champagne ring
-own a Shell Lock punch to punch your own folded flights and use a Shell Lock cap.

If you try to use regular flights on an L-Shaft, you'll get robin hoods and the flights will fall out.


Now if you want a spinning system that can be used with regular flights/rings, you need to by the "Laro Silent" shaft. These shafts have a standard tapered end like regular stems. You can use standard flights or any of the L Style flights with this setup.

The Laro Silent can be used with rings/standard punched flights with slot rings.

[Regulatori]

Easiest way to tell is if a shaft needs a ring/cap is to look at the edges at the end. If it's a squared off/open edge, it's for champagne caps/champagne flights. If the ends looks like a normal stem end with a taper/cone, it can be used with regular flights.

L Style and Laro are the same thing.
Laro spin shafts known as "Laro Silent" can be used with regular flights...they're at the bottom of the link. Notice how they taper at the end like a standard stem.
https://www.lstyleglobal.com/shaft/laro_shaft.html

All of the L-Shafts require a cap. Notice how the flight holders have a different shaped rear. If you didn't use a cap, your dart tip would catch one of those rear edges since they don't taper.
https://www.lstyleglobal.com/shaft/l_shaft.html

The L-Shafts also have a tiny canard looking wing to protect the edge of the flights.

Great explanation.  Thanks.  Do you agree that the champagne is the preferred system to own?

It depends. Long term, no. Just try out and see if you like it? Yes.

It comes down to the type of darts you use and how often you destroy flights. Do you destroy flights quickly or do you get a lot of life from your flights?

If you are easy on flights and your darts don't destroy them, go with Champagne flights and Champagne caps.

If you destroy flights often, you may want to go with a Shell Lock system. You will need to purchase a Shell Lock punch (which are not cheap) and Shell Lock caps. These caps have slits on the side with a pointed cone shape (the Champagne caps are smooth, shorter, and a flat nose/hole in the end).

With a Shell Lock, you can use any type of stem. Cheap plastic stems or any of the special L-Shafts which are much nicer.

With this system you can buy any folding flights, punch it, and then insert the Shell Lock cap which will keep the flights straight.
I go through flights a lot and will destroy L Style flights in a few days....so I went with the Shell Lock system. Makes it nice only to pay .50 for flights.
Rarely I'll get a robin hood or split a cap but you get 6 caps in a pack.


See my signature for more details/pictues.

Here is a flight punched with the Shell Lock system with a 50 cent R4X flight and cheap plastic stems.

[*Saber*]

Just ordered L-style shafts and flights from A-Z got to try them lol.

[Gada]

You can check my thread about L-Style here:

https://www.dartsnutz.net/forum/showthre...?tid=18167

There is some photos of used up flights. I would advise for the molded flights, together with champagne rings, they are very flexible, durable and well constructed. Plus i find the L-Style punch to be somewhat on the expensive side.

They are also very light:

- here is some weights in case someone is interested

- Harrows Retina (not punched)+ Ring 0.64g
- Standard Amazon 100 Micron (not punched) + Ring - 0,68g
- L-Style Shape with champagne ring inserted - 0,61g
- L-Style Standard with champagne ring inserted - 0,63g