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Just want to know whether your dart slides among your fingers just before it leaves your hand. I am using darts that are not to sticking to fingers and I am used to let it slide a bit before darts leave my hand. I now get a new set and found it more sticky to fingers and I think I cannot let it slide anymore and just throw it out.
The question is that is it a good idea to let darts slide a bit before They leave our hands? This is hard to identify for the pro players via the videos available on YouTube.
Anyone got ideas?
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Welcome aboard mate, do you mean your changing your grip on the drawback or at the point of release?
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One thing I do find to be common is people discussing release without any indication of the grip being used at all. There are so many ways to grip a dart that what may be relevant to one person is completely irrelevant to another. Personally, my grip is the single most important thing to me. While I am learning to put everything else out of my head, to let it come naturally (i.e... stance, arm plane, drawback, etc...) I find I must concentrate on the pressure between thumb and index finger. Having a non-wobbly dart flying true to the board is my biggest objective. Also, I have noticed the grip built in a dart to be very important to most people while I imagine a smooth dart would be fine with me. But after a year of desperately searching I have settled on a purist grip. Go figure.
I think having the dart slip would be a very hard element to control with consistency. I would stick (no pun intended) with your new grippier darts. Good luck working this out and welcome to THE forum. There is a huge diversity of skill and opinion here. Really nice folks that probably have an aberrant passion for darts.
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(03-25-2015, 07:57 PM)Dartbuggy Wrote: One thing I do find to be common is people discussing release without any indication of the grip being used at all. There are so many ways to grip a dart that what may be relevant to one person is completely irrelevant to another. Personally, my grip is the single most important thing to me. While I am learning to put everything else out of my head, to let it come naturally (i.e... stance, arm plane, drawback, etc...) I find I must concentrate on the pressure between thumb and index finger. Having a non-wobbly dart flying true to the board is my biggest objective. Also, I have noticed the grip built in a dart to be very important to most people while I imagine a smooth dart would be fine with me. But after a year of desperately searching I have settled on a purist grip. Go figure.
I think having the dart slip would be a very hard element to control with consistency. I would stick (no pun intended) with your new grippier darts. Good luck working this out and welcome to THE forum. There is a huge diversity of skill and opinion here. Really nice folks that probably have an aberrant passion for darts.
Nice post Plus1 for your help
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Welcome...the grips (on darts and sanity...:-)) are as varied as the nuts inhabiting this forum. Flight school is a good all around starting point. Try it - it's free!
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thanks for all of you above. really found that people here are patient enough to reply to all questions.
As I watched the pro players throwing their darts, quite a lot of their darts rotate on their way to the board. I am not sure what makes this happen and whether this is in relation to my original question - releasing with or without sliding, since it seems not easy let it rotate if you don't let it slide.
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Rotation is something most players don't think about and there's no need to. If your darts rotate naturally (but not excessively) that's fine. If they don't rotate, that's okay, too. Inducing a rotation where one doesn't exist is not necessary and potentially detrimental.
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IMO there is no best method in throwing darts, including slide or not slide.
Why some barrel more sticky to hand could be depends in few factors like :
1. darts itself (barrel material, weight, coating, barrel pattern)
2. your fingers (sweat, oily, dry)
So, my suggestion is throw lots, and I mean really lots of it then you can find a pattern there and adopt the most effective way in your feeling as I seen many pro's also not consistent as it seems 'cause human factor.
Our body is not a machine so even emotion could affect how we throw but at least the pro's could reduce that with practice, a lot of it Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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If you don't naturally rotate the dart on release do not try and induce spin.Its adds nothing to your throw only another thing to go wrong.When you spin the darts your timing has to be perfect even if its a tiny bit off you will have flyers out of the board or darts taking off to the side of the board and when that starts happening,which it will at some stage(most likely when under pressure or on an important double) you will be cursing yourself for throwing like that.Sweat can cause havoc to your throw too when the darts start slipping when you are spinning them in your fingers. Take it from someone who naturally does it no matter how much I try not to.
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(03-26-2015, 03:03 AM)dartitis dave Wrote: If you don't naturally rotate the dart on release do not try and induce spin.Its adds nothing to your throw only another thing to go wrong.When you spin the darts your timing has to be perfect even if its a tiny bit off you will have flyers out of the board or darts taking off to the side of the board and when that starts happening,which it will at some stage(most likely when under pressure or on an important double) you will be cursing yourself for throwing like that.Sweat can cause havoc to your throw too when the darts start slipping when you are spinning them in your fingers. Take it from someone who naturally does it no matter how much I try not to.
I have to agree totally. When I started a little over a year ago, before internet/forum searches, books on darting, or endless youtube dart video watching, I discovered spinning the dart. I thought I had found the secret. Until, I realized I couldn't control it. I got advice soon after on this site to not purposely try to spin the dart, but not worry to much if it does naturally. I do know that my best darts come when the dart doesn't spin at all. But trying to make it not spin does not help so much. I have worked on discovering a grip where no fingers linger longer than the others. It is amazing how one finger on the dart a fraction of a second longer just pushes the dart. The easiest way for me is to isolate two opposite pressure points on the dart and try to release them equally. The danger of over concentrating on this aspect is snatching. I imagine a good follow through that has a smooth equal release with the dart pointed straight to the target is the holy grail. Ever experience a throw that feels perfect and the dart lands exactly as intended? Just do that all the time. Good luck with that. I'm having a tough time with it personally. Just makes me more determined.
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I somehow found that the more sticky darts minimize the energy loss when releasing. I am not a powerful dart player so that this way may suit me. Will try to compare the old and new way of throwing to find out more details.
By the way and with regards to the above replies, I find that index finger does the most on the error of releasing, causing my darts deflects to the right hand side a bit below the bull, such as "2", if I aim at the bull. Really hard to maintain extacly same pressure on both side of the darts but will try and try.
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