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02-23-2015, 03:15 PM
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Our group started playing soft-tip darts in September 2014 and since that time we've all become better players (i.e. we hit the board more often. ha ha ha). We started with Viper Tufflex II tips, but found they bent quite easily so in January we switched to Viper Tufflex III tips.
Overall everyone found the Tufflex III tips to be better. Personally I liked them too, but unfortunately I have a strong throw even with only an 18 gram dart and found I was breaking off a lot of tips as I pull-twisted-out the dart from the board.
I tried softening my throw and that was disastrous so my next move was to find a better tip. So I ordered a sampling of different tips to see what would work for me.
Below are my tip ratings. This obviously is somewhat subjective and will also vary depending on the dartboard as well.
So far the Target Pixel is great and is way ahead of the others. I have some Lippoints, but haven't tried them yet.
Overall Rating
(1-Poor to 10-Great)
Unicorn: 1179023 1 very tight
Viper:
- Tufflex II 3 bends easily
- Tufflex III 4 twistout breakage
Alchemist:
- OTAKU 26mm 3 bends easily
- OTAKU 21mm 3 impact fracturing
- Euro Lipped 20mm 4 twistout breakage
Bulls:
- AXX Nylon 5
- Mega Point Long 3 tight
- Tefo X Point 5
Target:
Pixel 25mm 8
Lippoint (L-Point):
- Lip Points
- Short Lip
- US Lip Points
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I'm using Condor tips. And it's very popular here. Very Durable and you can easily straighten it if u hit say the screen and accidentally bend it.
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Maccho @ Core Darts Japan 17.5grams
Death Sabre LE @ Cosmo Darts Japan 17.5grams
Fire @ Harrows 18 grams (1st soft tip set)
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Condor and Lippoint are the best when playing with D2 machine
Fitpoint is medicore, sometimes bounced out from machine.
Pixel tip is the worst for D2, can't even stick to D2 machine each throw
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I like the cheap dimple tips I get from Muellers Sports,,,,$3.00 for 100,,,or $13.00 for 1000,,,,
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I'd like to try the Muellers tips sometime but for shipping they indicate: U.S. orders only. Transit calculations not available for foreign orders. Odd, most US companies will ship to Canada.
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Found no issues with US Lippoints on Dartslive/2 boards (not sure what I'm presented with ... could be D2). Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
Any idea about the Bull's TEFO X on D2 boards?
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03-02-2015, 12:26 PM
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As far as I am aware there are no coin operated commercial boards in this area. So am I correct in assuming that a D2 board is one of these or does D2 mean a second generation Dartslive board?
(My tests were done on a Viper 777 home board.)
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(03-02-2015, 12:26 PM)Scorpion Wrote: As far as I am aware there are no coin operated commercial boards in this area. So am I correct in assuming that a D2 board is one of these or does D2 mean a second generation Dartslive board?
(My tests were done on a Viper 777 home board.)
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I don't know what the tips are on the Bulls Fighter darts I got but they seemed to be quite good until I broke one lol
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Our two Viper 777 boards have been replaced with a pair of Arachnid Cricket Pro 650s and the hole characteristics are predictably different. The Bulls Axx tips which worked great in the Viper 777 work poorly in the Arachnid 650 so we've switched back to our bulk supply of Viper Tufflex III tips for now. (The Viper Tufflex III tips are thinner and longer than the Axx tips).
When I have a full day free I'll take all the tips I had listed above plus a couple more and try them on the Arachnid 650 board and rate them all over again.
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09-26-2015, 12:08 PM
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I did a quick run through all the tips listed above (except the Lippoints since we all know they'll do well) plus a couple more. At this point I was checking for bounce-outs and ease of removal. All the tips worked fairly well with the Arachnid Cricket Pro 650 except for the Axx tips.
As mentioned earlier it would appear that the hole characteristics between the Viper 777 and the Arachnid 650 are significantly different. I am assuming the hole size on the Viper 777 is larger allowing the tip to penetrate deeper up the tip's shank causing it to stick or get stuck resulting in twist-out removal breakage. (Since the Axx tip is a shorter wider tip it doesn't penetrate the Viper hole as deep.) Sorry about this beginning to sound a bit pornish. LOL
On the Arachnid 650 all the other tips had no significant bounce-out problem and only one occurrence of tip impact breakage. And there was no problem with twist-out breakage of the tips when removing the darts from the board. Since these tips all performed well during this quick test, there was no sense in trying to rate them yet.
I will report on durability once I work through the tips over time and I should be able to separate and rate the tips using the Arachnid 650 then.
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Arachnid is the pioneer of the "Square Hole" technology that started the soft tip craze decades ago,,,, they still use the same patented design on most all their home and commercial boards ,,,,
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I have used the L ' s for years, love them and they come in the different lengths for your preferences. I prefer the long.
I am currently using the recently released fit point plus, and I can't say enough about them. They really stick in the board!
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i think lippoints are the best while pixel tips are the worst cuz u cant stick these tips on d2 machines
im using target tufflex, those are good and affordable
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As I indicated earlier, rating tips on the Arachnid board was more difficult than I thought since most all tips did quite well on it.
To date I've managed to use the following tips on the Arachnid Cricket Pro 650 board:
As mentioned the Bulls Axx Short 21mm tip did poorly not because of poor quality but that the tip diameter was rather large for the Arachnid holes.
Tips that I thought were OK were the Alchemist Otaku and Euro Lipped.
Tips that I thought were good were the Viper Tufflex III, Harrows H-Tip, Bulls Tefo X, and Target Tufflex.
In my case where our social club provides free tips for our 18 members, we are interested in an economical tip that performs well and can be purchased in quantities of 500 or 1000. Since we first started playing soft-tip darts we have purchased Viper Tufflex II, Viper Tufflex III, and Axx Short in bulk quantities.
On the Arachnid board the Viper Tufflex III tips work well, but they bend fairly easily so based on my tip testing I ordered and just received 1000 Harrows H-Tips. The H-Tips have a wider tip diameter than the Viper Tufflex III and are much stiffer and don't bend as easy. I'm hoping our members will like them.
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