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Really frustrating problem I have. I play most of my darts at home on my own. When im at home I throw great (for me) I could averages in late 70s or 80 after 6 or 7 legs. Big scores, consistant, usually hitting my doubles with my first or second dart. Problem is, as soon as I go play in someone elses house or the pub, my game falls apart. End up hitting 26, 45 ect and cannot hit a double atall.. Why is this? It cant be nerves because I know I can play well and im always confident stepping up. It jist dosnt happen for me atall when im not on my own board. So frustrating! Anyone any idead as to why this is happening.
Playing since Jan 2013
180s in 2013: 1
180s in 2014: About 7
180s in 2015: 20+
Highest Checkout: 148 in practice/141 in match
Best leg: 15 darts
Darts used: 23g winmaus from argos
Board Used: Blade 4
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Sounds like concentration to me.

Its very easy to switch off and concentrate when your practicing alone - however pub atmosphere, talking to mates while playing etc - well not so easy to keep everything else from distracting you.

Same with most things in darts, the more you put yourself in different scenario's the more accustomed you get to it - more you play in the pub or with other people the easier you will find it to concentrate.
Maybe while practicing alone put the TV on or the radio - have some distraction so that when your out and about you may be able to feel more familiar with people talking or music playing etc

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It may just be a bit of performance anxiety stepping in to wreck your game. I'm a big advocate of playing in different venues whenever I can to get use to different atmospheres. Like Rebel mentioned, there are a lot more distractions playing in a pub as opposed to playing in your own home.

I have 2 boards set up and will sometimes practice alone or with a friend of mine that's been on teams I've played for. Whether I'm alone or playing against someone, I will have either the stereo or TV on to add a bit of noise. I'll also vary how often I get to the line in a particular time frame. If playing alone, I'll throw my darts, retrieve them and tinker a bit with something to simulate playing against someone and it being their throw. You may be throwing 3, retrieving them and getting right back at the line, and that makes for pretty consistent play. Vary the time you are approaching the line and see if this helps when practicing.
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah that could be one thing, I get very annoyed when people are talking to me when im trying to throw. I really need to get myself in the zone and not be thinking about what people are saying to me but at home id have the television on, baby screeming. Noise dosnt bother me it's more people actually talking TO me. All practice should be serious and focused I think.
Playing since Jan 2013
180s in 2013: 1
180s in 2014: About 7
180s in 2015: 20+
Highest Checkout: 148 in practice/141 in match
Best leg: 15 darts
Darts used: 23g winmaus from argos
Board Used: Blade 4
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Thanks gumbo. I do wait around for a few seconds before I throw as I often play against my phone, so I wait for the phone to score if you get me? Id think rebel is right, iv no problem with noise or people talking, its when there talking to me. Im trying to chat with them and throw which is never going to work. But playing in the league I get focused and in the zone but still so inconsistent! I need to get to the pub more I suppose. Small baby at the min so cant get out as much as id like
Playing since Jan 2013
180s in 2013: 1
180s in 2014: About 7
180s in 2015: 20+
Highest Checkout: 148 in practice/141 in match
Best leg: 15 darts
Darts used: 23g winmaus from argos
Board Used: Blade 4
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Practice with pub sounds in the background while practicing at home ... for example go to this site play it in a loop or with two of them at the same time ... something that would normal bug you .


https://www.soundsnap.com/tags/pub
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Haha I don't think the missus would be having that! I do play with the tv on il turn it up a bit more in future.
Playing since Jan 2013
180s in 2013: 1
180s in 2014: About 7
180s in 2015: 20+
Highest Checkout: 148 in practice/141 in match
Best leg: 15 darts
Darts used: 23g winmaus from argos
Board Used: Blade 4
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(02-10-2015, 02:45 PM)9DartKid Wrote: Haha I don't think the missus would be having that! I do play with the tv on il turn it up a bit more in future.

Mmmm .. you could download it onto your MP3 player and listen with Earphones ... that way the Missus wont be listening to it AND you wont be listening to the Missus ... See .. a WIN/WIN LOL
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Stems: Harrow Magnetic Mediums
Flights: Combat
Board: Blade 4
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Favorite checkout: 125 (50-25-50)
Fave players: Anderson, Wright, Part
Fave double: D16
Fave double in: D20
Best Game: 9 Dart 501

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Hahaha great idea!
Playing since Jan 2013
180s in 2013: 1
180s in 2014: About 7
180s in 2015: 20+
Highest Checkout: 148 in practice/141 in match
Best leg: 15 darts
Darts used: 23g winmaus from argos
Board Used: Blade 4
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Like I told you yesterday, tournaments.There will be loads on throughout the summer.Youll be grand then by the time the league starts next year.Never thought of it before but reading it here it sounds like your trying too hard, you know how good you are but when you playing against someone else it will never be as good as practice and when it doesn't go right you try even harder causing you to tense up and snatch darts all over the place
180's in 2016 so far - 29
180's in 2015 . - 119

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Highest out 2015  - 170

Highest Checkout - Practice 170,Match 152

Best 501 - Practice 10 darts,Match 13 darts

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Yes Dave. That sounds very plausible. I try to show people how good I can play and it just doesn't happen. The better form im in at home, the worse I am playing somwhere else, thats why I calmed down on the practicing the last few weeks. How do I try less though? I try my hardest and give my full attention when im at home too.
Playing since Jan 2013
180s in 2013: 1
180s in 2014: About 7
180s in 2015: 20+
Highest Checkout: 148 in practice/141 in match
Best leg: 15 darts
Darts used: 23g winmaus from argos
Board Used: Blade 4
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Over thinking and trying too hard don't really work with the game of darts - being calm and focused will take you far - easier said than done I know Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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(02-10-2015, 01:46 PM)9DartKid Wrote: Really frustrating problem I have. I play most of my darts at home on my own. When im at home I throw great (for me) I could averages in late 70s or 80 after 6 or 7 legs. Big scores, consistant, usually hitting my doubles with my first or second dart. Problem is, as soon as I go play in someone elses house or the pub, my game falls apart. End up hitting 26, 45 ect and cannot hit a double atall.. Why is this? It cant be nerves because I know I can play well and im always confident stepping up. It jist dosnt happen for me atall when im not on my own board. So frustrating! Anyone any idead as to why this is happening.

Can I ask how well do you know the players at the pub? Are they good mates or perhaps just people you nod to now and then. Sometimes the apprehension of playing against complete unknowns can put you off big time.
I find that breaking the ice starts by showing some deserved respect when they score well of finish well, you'll find its reciprocated too.
Before long the unknowns become friendly and you can then have fun when you play tell yourself this is a learning curve take the pressure off yourself and relax. Sometimes I throw some poor shots but if my grouping is good then I'm not too bothered knowing that its just my alignment that is out so I just laugh a little pull some faces then smile and move on.

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(02-10-2015, 01:46 PM)9DartKid Wrote: Really frustrating problem I have. I play most of my darts at home on my own. When im at home I throw great (for me) I could averages in late 70s or 80 after 6 or 7 legs. Big scores, consistant, usually hitting my doubles with my first or second dart. Problem is, as soon as I go play in someone elses house or the pub, my game falls apart. End up hitting 26, 45 ect and cannot hit a double atall.. Why is this? It cant be nerves because I know I can play well and im always confident stepping up. It jist dosnt happen for me atall when im not on my own board. So frustrating! Anyone any idead as to why this is happening.

Double check all the measurements on your home board, that would be 1st for me. Secondly , don`t forget you have that pause when other guy throws, that makes a big difference. Another thing is the atmosphere, if you practice in the quiet, noises like music and talking will filter in. Hope this waffling helps lol Guests cannot see images in the messages. Please register at the forum by clicking here to see images.
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I noticed you said "I get very annoyed when people are talking to me when I'm trying to throw."

This is a problem because as a beginner I was told by seasoned players to know what you are shooting at before you go to the line and any talk or thinking should be done before you go to the line.

As an example I had made a double 6 in my 401 game to win. Then when playing in 301 I had the same shot to make for another win but a team member said "don't shoot to the inside" as I was shooting and I threw the dart way off almost a bull. After that I told my team don't say a word while I am shooting tell me before or after, and I never got another chance to shoot it was over. Talking can break your concentration.

About a year ago when first starting in a league I had anxiety when it was time to shoot for my team, and it lasted right through the whole game. I could not perform my normal stroke as I did in practice because of being nervous. Now, I still have it a little anxiety but after the first dart my concentration and focus take over. This took time and practice. Learning and knowing what to shoot at before going on the line and not over thinking once there, helped with focus and reducing the nervous feeling.

When it comes to noise (music/TV) you have to rely on knowing your normal stroke. In my practice routine I start with no music, TV or distractions. This is so I can learn and feel my stroke and know the difference when I am doing something different. Then after a certain time period I bring on the distractions music/TV, lighting or whatever and see if I can still feel that correct stroke, focus and concentration.

One last point when going to the line if it has measurements don't think they are correct. Some lines are not exactly accurate with the zero being on the bull which can keep you from being aligned correctly.
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