My guide to keeping flights on stems.
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I'm using Condor Hybrid... It's quite ugly but flies well and very Durable


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great thread!
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(03-02-2015, 01:39 PM)Cookierules Wrote: I'm using Condor Hybrid... It's quite ugly but flies well and very Durable

nice flights Smile
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I'm not sure wether to try rings and punch or whizlocks. I'm tempted at the whizlocks due to eliminating robin hoods, I would imagine my stems to last for ages if I do that.
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With a bit of super glue, your standard flights/shafts turn into a one piece shaft and flight system!

edit: only joking around.
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Thanks this post extremely helpful.
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great tip on how to keep your dart flights intact
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(03-08-2015, 03:58 AM)Kon Wrote: With a bit of super glue, your standard flights/shafts turn into a one piece shaft and flight system!

edit: only joking around.

No, you might be on to something. I might consider that. I mean, seriously. Replace flights and stems simultaneously. So what? Still, cheapest sport alive if you aren't a collector.

Reg, I appreciate this guide to fiddling bits. I think it is a sincere attempt to justify nylon and poly stems. p.s. springs don't work. I don't know about the caps and such as I was too tired of the fiddling bits to continue with them, eyesight being as such... My guide to keeping flights on a stem=aluminum, baby! +1 for ya anyway for starting the conversation.
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I've been using the Slot Rings as they came on a set and love them. Got some new darts and they had the thin ring. As I started throwing them with the thin ring, a flight would pop off every now and then. Punched the flights and put Slot Rings on instead and haven't lost a flight since.

That in itself isn't a big surprise, but it got me thinking about grouping. Especially with the lighter weight of soft tips, is it better to have a flight pop off in a tight grouping than have the tip deflect due to a vise-grip bond between stem and flight when the two flights interact?

The only reason I'm tempted to go to Cosmo Fit flights is to get the spinning flight (other system's rattling puts me off), and I'd even consider a teardrop shape to help with grouping too. But again there is the interaction between flights in a tight grouping...
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The new Winmau Stealth system just hit the market along with Cosmo,, Harrows Click,,L-Style,,,no more fiddling bits,,,,a bit on the expensive side ,,,,

For soft tip throwers,,, I think an aluminum stem will always have a place,,,for the price,,,
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Does the L-style cap fit a Harrows speedline shaft?
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(05-22-2015, 10:50 PM)BigE Wrote: Does the L-style cap fit a Harrows speedline shaft?

I wouldn't try a alu stem of any kind on a L-Style flight, the flights are a little different at the base than regular flights. It would probably ruin the flights
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Actually, speedline is plastic, keramik is the aluminum version. Slightly different weight at the same length.
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I have a set of Speedines and tried it out with L Style punched flights/Shell Lock cap.

The problem with that type of stem is it has a TIGHT fit on the flight. With a standard plastic stem, the flight just slides on easily....it's the cap that really makes them snug. Maybe your Speedlines are well worn but mine took a little force to get the flight to fully seat.

Now the problem is that the flight itself has a large bullet shaped hole for the cap. There isn't a lot of plastic material in front the punched section so if you try to push a flight onto one of these stems, the flights will start to crumble/bend because of that weak area.

Also, a standard plastic stem's tip is just barely covered by the L Style cap. You're going to have a gap/space around the cap/stem if you use those narrow stems. I'm not sure how long the flights will last because on a normal stem, that cap fits snugly. If a dart hits that cap section, both the cap/stem will together absorb the impact since it acts like a single piece. With your stem setup, the cap doesn't fit tight on the stem and the whole flight will flex since the thin plastic cap is taking all of the force. Not sure if that plastic will get cracked/flight will tear or bend in that area.

It's hard to explain without pictures.
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