Angle of impact
Hi guys,

So today I received my new darts, 22gm Chizzy gold and immediately started throwing them. After around 460 throws I have definitely found that these darts have the sort of grip I like. It feels very smooth, not very grippy and not slippery either. Overall this is by far my favourite grip out of the 3 sets I currently have. There is, however, an issue with these that I did not have previously with the Harrow Oracle darts and that is they are hitting the dartboard on an upward angle.

When I threw the Oracle I always had them hit almost perfectly horizontal or slightly on a downward angle once every now and then.

With the Chizzy's 90% out of the 460 throws I did today would land on an upward angle in to the dartboard. I have attached photo which might give you better understanding of what I mean.

I threw these with the exact same action I threw the Oracle darts.

Any suggestions why that would be the case? [Image: 8a538fdc21edc1685992afe079a60bdb.jpg][Image: 5160dc1f3b21c5f69ad822e009e167b2.jpg]

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Try different size flights & shafts
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If you want to maintain the same action, try bigger flights, shorter stems, or a combination.   Not elevating the point at release can have this effect as well.
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I used to love those darts but I dropped weight and never used them again. I always used short stems and had them land more horizontal. Try that out.
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Thanks guys.

These darts come with short stems already so I will experiment with different flight shapes and sizes.




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(06-14-2019, 02:37 PM)nixer55 Wrote: Not elevating the point at release can have this effect as well.

Just to see if I understand this. Are you suggesting that I’m pushing the point of the dart upwards at the time of release?









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(06-14-2019, 03:03 PM)the.insid3r Wrote:
(06-14-2019, 02:37 PM)nixer55 Wrote: Not elevating the point at release can have this effect as well.

Just to see if I understand this. Are you suggesting that I’m pushing the point of the dart upwards at the time of release?

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Nope.  Just saying if the point is NOT elevated, the dart might land with a tail down attitude.  But as you say, the issue doesn't happen with other darts, adjust the dart setup.
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(06-14-2019, 02:37 PM)nixer55 Wrote: Nope.  Just saying if the point is NOT elevated, the dart might land with a tail down attitude.  But as you say, the issue doesn't happen with other darts, adjust the dart setup.

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When a dart goes in like that and you are using the same throwing action it is highly likely to be a stem length issue.

I seem to remember (Although it is best to check this) that if the angle is pointing up you need to use a shorter stem length.
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(06-14-2019, 02:20 PM)the.insid3r Wrote: Hi guys,

So today I received my new darts, 22gm Chizzy gold and immediately started throwing them. After around 460 throws I have definitely found that these darts have the sort of grip I like. It feels very smooth, not very grippy  and not slippery either. Overall this is by far my favourite grip out of the 3 sets I currently have. There is, however, an issue with these that I did not have previously with the Harrow Oracle darts and that is they are hitting the dartboard on an upward angle.

When I threw the Oracle I always had them hit almost perfectly horizontal or slightly on a downward angle once every now and then.

With the Chizzy's 90% out of the 460 throws I did today would land on an upward angle in to the dartboard. I have attached photo which might give you better understanding of what I mean.

I threw these with the exact same action I threw the Oracle darts.

Any suggestions why that would be the case?

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I am somewhat confused.

The pictures you posted,  I would consider the darts landing with a dropped tail. Or a negative angle.
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It seems you’re wording is confusing Me, Yes, the point is pointed at an  upward angle . 

For me I refer to these landings in reverse.  EG . DARTS LANDING AT A UPWARD ANGLE would Be POINT DOWN And flight up.
DARTS LANDING AT A DOWNWARDS ANGLE WOULD BE, AS YOU HAVE, POINTS UP AND FLIGHT DOWN.

My conclusion, with my experience

Typically with new dart set Ups.  I Rarely ever take the new darts supplied stems and fights out of packaging to maintain a bit of re Sale value .

But you are throwing a new dart. Chances are . You’re throwing technique will not immediately adjust to the new dart. and you will experience some wonky throwing .....my best bet is change as minimal accessories, and keep throwing until it all get ironed out

I have ran into this many times, mainly within straight barrell Gary Anderson, and Click flight system with standard stems, They dropped the tails , along with phi Taylor gen 2 stems
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