Equipment upgrade
I'm getting a new board tomorrow and i want new darts soon. I have a few sets of brass (18g, 21g, 23g) that i have tried different stems and flights on. I prefer the 18g. The heavier darts fishtail and i haven't been able to get them to stop no matter what i do. So, do i stay with 18g in tungsten darts?
I use a rear grip. .. anything brand in particular you favor?
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Also consider dimensions, tungsten darts are thinner for the same weight. Go with something inexpensive till you find what you like.
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Lot's of discussion to be found on this subject.  Try these threads as a starting point:

https://www.dartsnutz.net/forum/showthre...?tid=20089
https://www.dartsnutz.net/forum/showthre...?tid=35690

If you want to see more threads, paste this in Google search:

site:dartsnutz.net darts for rear gripper

cheers...
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If there are any dart shops around where you are, maybe you can try out some darts and get a good idea of what works best for you.
If you know what I'm doing, don't tell me ..... I find bliss in my confusion.   

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Just wondering, could the dart wiggle (fishtailing), be caused by an uneven release? Say, your fingers lose contact before your thumb (or the other way around)?? I do understand, that not gripping the dart correctly, as it concerns its center of gravity can cause this, but the more I throw, I’m learning your release has something to do with it as well.
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Steel-Tip Darts:  Bottelsen Precision Grip Hammerheads (23 Gram)
                         L-Style Carbon Shafts (190)
                         L-Style Flights, Blue, Standard 

Soft-Tip Darts:  Bottelsen Precision Grip (20 Gram)
                        L-Style Carbon Shafts (190)
                        L-Style Flights, Black, Standard
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I hold and release them the same as i do the 18's. I've also tried different grip, stance, flights, shafts. Idk what the problem is. Since I'm prolly never going to London i may just stick with light brass
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(02-13-2019, 06:07 AM)Sputnam Wrote: I hold and release them the same as i do the 18's. I've also tried different grip, stance, flights, shafts. Idk what the problem is. Since I'm prolly never going to London i may just stick with light brass

The way a person throws a lighter dart (18 grams) vs. a heavier dart (23 grams), is automatically different, though it might be ever so slight...it’s still different.  And, here’s why...

A lighter dart requires a faster release velocity to get to the bullseye than a heavier dart, therefore, requiring a faster arm/wrist speed to achieve the needed velocity.

I have a set of 18 gram Hammerheads, that if I throw several games, my elbow feels like it’s being ripped apart, due to the required snap to get them to the board accurately. I throw a 24 gram dart very comfortably, and just as, if not more accurately than the 18’s...I don’t have to put as much snap behind them.
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Steel-Tip Darts:  Bottelsen Precision Grip Hammerheads (23 Gram)
                         L-Style Carbon Shafts (190)
                         L-Style Flights, Blue, Standard 

Soft-Tip Darts:  Bottelsen Precision Grip (20 Gram)
                        L-Style Carbon Shafts (190)
                        L-Style Flights, Black, Standard
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(02-13-2019, 11:57 AM)longgunshooterzero Wrote:
(02-13-2019, 06:07 AM)Sputnam Wrote: I hold and release them the same as i do the 18's. I've also tried different grip, stance, flights, shafts. Idk what the problem is. Since I'm prolly never going to London i may just stick with light brass

The way a person throws a lighter dart (18 grams) vs. a heavier dart (23 grams), is automatically different, though it might be ever so slight...it’s still different.  And, here’s why...

A lighter dart requires a faster release velocity to get to the bullseye than a heavier dart, therefore, requiring a faster arm/wrist speed to achieve the needed velocity.

I have a set of 18 gram Hammerheads, that if I throw several games, my elbow feels like it’s being ripped apart, due to the required snap to get them to the board accurately.  I throw a 24 gram dart very comfortably, and just as, if not more accurately than the 18’s...I don’t have to put as much snap behind them.

Well thanks for putting a light on for me, I've been throwing 19 gram darts forever and have also been suffering from lateral epicondylitis for well over a year, after a long night of darts the pain made it hard to sleep. Recently I started playing with a much heavier dart (25 grams) and although I still get sore it's not the same sharp pain, thanks Doc!
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