Darts Etiquette - Good stuff
What joeriw96 said.

Rules are rules and etiquette is something you can't force to another person, unfortunately. That's sh|t thing to do what he does, but you just have to deal with it. There will be those kind of cvnts, unfortunately. One can choose not to play with them or play with them and understand it's ones choice.

Yes, I do understand it's annoying and that kind of thing shouldn't be part of the game, but what can be done?

(10-20-2017, 07:54 PM)joeriw96 Wrote:
(10-20-2017, 07:45 PM)kevmode Wrote: So Musher is saying that it is ok that my opponents cheat and I have to just "deal with it" while I follow the proper rules and etiquette.  Maybe darts isn't the game for me than. Hard to focus on the "target" when your oponent makes eye contact with you when he gets done throwing his turn and talks to you.  Its really annoying I HATE IT!!!  Having 1 minutes conversation on my throw during a 501 is ok?

Keep in mind that etiquette =/= rules. The people you are describing are a bunch of ******* but they aren't technically cheating.
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(10-20-2017, 07:45 PM)kevmode Wrote: So Musher is saying that it is ok that my opponents cheat and I have to just "deal with it" while I follow the proper rules and etiquette.  Maybe darts isn't the game for me than. Hard to focus on the "target" when your oponent makes eye contact with you when he gets done throwing his turn and talks to you.  Its really annoying I HATE IT!!!  Having 1 minutes conversation on my throw during a 501 is ok?  I have never seen good players do what this guy does and that says something.

Why not speak to your team Captain on practice night and get him to bring it up at league level, there must be rules regarding match behaviour.
Failing that just stand back from the oche until your opponent has passed, make a point of not making eye contact or acknowledging him in any way and just take him to the cleaners. 
No rules broken and you never know it might just wind him up and serve as a distraction to him that he cannot draw you in to his ill mannered charade.
In the words of Bett Midler, F*!k em if they cant take a joke LOL
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(10-18-2017, 10:44 PM)kevmode Wrote: American players in my area don't follow these rules of etiquette I am starting to think I am getting cheated at this point and called out a dart playing friend last night.  How is it fair that I follow the rules and he doesn't?  "It is just pub darts" is what people say but I don't buy it.  How can I get him to understand that I don't want to talk during legs?

Perhaps you are taking it much too seriously.    I see nothing wrong with casual banter between players when playing in a pub environment between friends.  I have no issues with being  called out for tossing a 140 followed by a 26 and getting my share of grief for my efforts.

When it comes to league matches, I prefer to be stoic and to myself and simply play the game and not have all of this casual conversation between me any my opponent or even teammates.   I've been playing long enough to know what I need to throw, so I don't need you talking to me while at the oche and getting ready to toss my darts.
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(10-21-2017, 12:30 AM)gumbo2176 Wrote:
(10-18-2017, 10:44 PM)kevmode Wrote: American players in my area don't follow these rules of etiquette I am starting to think I am getting cheated at this point and called out a dart playing friend last night.  How is it fair that I follow the rules and he doesn't?  "It is just pub darts" is what people say but I don't buy it.  How can I get him to understand that I don't want to talk during legs?

Perhaps you are taking it much too seriously.    I see nothing wrong with casual banter between players when playing in a pub environment between friends.  I have no issues with being  called out for tossing a 140 followed by a 26 and getting my share of grief for my efforts.

When it comes to league matches, I prefer to be stoic and to myself and simply play the game and not have all of this casual conversation between me any my opponent or even teammates.   I've been playing long enough to know what I need to throw, so I don't need you talking to me while at the oche and getting ready to toss my darts.
I agree with Gumbo- however even Pros play the head game. Coughing before a player shoots or tapping darts together - Concentrate- concentrate its part of the game. If your that sensitive am afraid your in for a hard time because players will prey upon you. I personally give it right back to them because they are asses lol.
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Head games are part of the game. ut other thing is how it's done. Casual banter is also part of the relaxed arrow tossing among friends.

Toughing up and focusing ones own game is something that every dart player should do. Of course there is a limit for the stupid and like *Saber* said, give it back.

(10-21-2017, 12:39 AM)*Saber* Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 12:30 AM)gumbo2176 Wrote: Perhaps you are taking it much too seriously.    I see nothing wrong with casual banter between players when playing in a pub environment between friends.  I have no issues with being  called out for tossing a 140 followed by a 26 and getting my share of grief for my efforts.

When it comes to league matches, I prefer to be stoic and to myself and simply play the game and not have all of this casual conversation between me any my opponent or even teammates.   I've been playing long enough to know what I need to throw, so I don't need you talking to me while at the oche and getting ready to toss my darts.
I agree with Gumbo- however even Pros play the head game. Coughing before a player shoots or tapping darts together - Concentrate- concentrate its part of the game. If your that sensitive am afraid your in for a hard time because players will prey upon you. I personally give it right back to them because they are asses lol.
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"Once you let any form of cheating become acceptable, it murders the sport." Lance Armstrong.

If you feel you have to cheat to try to win - you have already lost.
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I find that so hilarious quote still.. makes me smile every time Smile

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(10-21-2017, 09:29 AM)Ryk Wrote: "Once you let any form of cheating become acceptable, it murders the sport." Lance Armstrong.

If you feel you have to cheat to try to win  - you have already lost.
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(10-21-2017, 12:39 PM)Musher Wrote: I find that so hilarious quote still.. makes me smile every time Smile

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(10-21-2017, 09:29 AM)Ryk Wrote: "Once you let any form of cheating become acceptable, it murders the sport." Lance Armstrong.

If you feel you have to cheat to try to win  - you have already lost.

Given the direction Mr. Armstrong went.....ironic.
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(10-21-2017, 01:58 PM)Cat Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 12:39 PM)Musher Wrote: I find that so hilarious quote still.. makes me smile every time Smile

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(10-21-2017, 09:29 AM)Ryk Wrote: "Once you let any form of cheating become acceptable, it murders the sport." Lance Armstrong.

If you feel you have to cheat to try to win  - you have already lost.

Given the direction Mr. Armstrong went.....ironic.

Yep, he was in denial for so long I think he even started to believe it.
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@ gumbo—�Great athlete, sad he stubbed his toe on ethics bump
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(10-21-2017, 02:43 PM)Cat Wrote: @ gumbo—�Great athlete, sad he stubbed his toe on ethics bump

But it makes one wonder just how many titles he actually could have won if he competed clean.   There's no denying that juicing drastically increases an athletes chances of better performances, quicker recovery times, etc.

It just makes me wonder how he got around all of those drug tests for so many years as he kept denying his use of PED's.
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Money talks, they say Tongue

(10-21-2017, 03:28 PM)gumbo2176 Wrote: It just makes me wonder how he got around all of those drug tests for so many years as he kept denying his use of PED's.
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(10-21-2017, 03:28 PM)gumbo2176 Wrote:
(10-21-2017, 02:43 PM)Cat Wrote: @ gumbo—�Great athlete, sad he stubbed his toe on ethics bump

But it makes one wonder just how many titles he actually could have won if he competed clean.   There's no denying that juicing drastically increases an athletes chances of better performances, quicker recovery times, etc.

It just makes me wonder how he got around all of those drug tests for so many years as he kept denying his use of PED's.

They all doped, his teammate was on there radar, so he sold Lance down the river to save his own butt
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When I think of PED's and doping to increase ones chances to compete at a higher level, the first image that comes to my mind are the East German women from the Olympics in the 70's who sported shoulders the width of NFL Linebackers and heavily muscled bodies that resembled no other swimmers and track and field athletes of that time.

Look what steroid and HGH use has accomplished in the bodybuilding world with most of the men looking like cartoon characters with disproportionate bodies and women who are so heavily muscled they look like the men who competed clean before steroid use became so popular. A bodybuilder who wants to compete without using any steroids has absolutely no chance of succeeding in those competitions.
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What about the Olympic athletes in the rifle events of the 1980’s that all had heart problems that required beta blockers even though their average age was under 23?
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