Barrels too short now. Any way to extend the length?
Since i changed from a 3 finger to a 4 finger grip, many of my barrels are too short. 

I don't know of any way to add length at the back other than a 2g Add-A-Gram, but shopping around, I can only find the 2 gram ones, and usually in brass colour.

I took my silver/chromed ones, and shortened it/drilled holes to try and get the weight down as much as possible, but it still changes the balance as it's about 1.6g.

I guess the best for now I guess would be a silver coloured ONE gram Add-A-Gram, which I can also shorten just a smidgen, and drill to reduce weight, unless you guys can think of a better solution. Even buying a new barrel won't usually work because many do not have length options, except the Platinum and higher end Jokers.
I don't think there is anything 'natural' about throwing darts. A person does not naturally stand sideways, with weight more on one leg, lean forward and swing to launch a projectile repeatedly, day in, day out as part of daily routine. One does not even throw a rock or ball that way.    ~ With darts, everything has to be learnt, and refined.  Wink

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Maybe you should try the Target Carbon Ti Pro shafts of the Daytona Fire.
https://www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?...4_477_2057
A little bit more length but not so much weight...
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(08-26-2017, 07:39 AM)Rabe1 Wrote: Maybe you should try the Target Carbon Ti Pro shafts of the Daytona Fire.
https://www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?...4_477_2057
A little bit more length but not so much weight...

That might work! Now I'm wondering how heavy are the short or Tweenie TI sections? But my main gripe in using that would be that I'm forced to use the what I hear are easy to snap Carbon shafts.
I don't think there is anything 'natural' about throwing darts. A person does not naturally stand sideways, with weight more on one leg, lean forward and swing to launch a projectile repeatedly, day in, day out as part of daily routine. One does not even throw a rock or ball that way.    ~ With darts, everything has to be learnt, and refined.  Wink

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A beginner - always experimenting and trying to learn! So I can fool around with loads of set-ups and techniques! Lol! Big Grin
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I'm not sure what kind of thread they are using but you might be able to fit a slikstick in them?
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(08-26-2017, 12:38 PM)joeriw96 Wrote: I'm not sure what kind of thread they are using but you might be able to fit a slikstick in them?

Could be Joeriw! But the weight worries me since many TI shafts seems to be rather heavy. Could anyone with the short or tweenie TI shafts weigh just the TU section please? 

Right now my filed and drilled Add-A-Gram is 1.6g. They're OK only, but lighter at 1.2g or lower would be better, hence the search for the silver 1g silver AAG! The brass coloured ones just looks hideous!  Lol
I don't think there is anything 'natural' about throwing darts. A person does not naturally stand sideways, with weight more on one leg, lean forward and swing to launch a projectile repeatedly, day in, day out as part of daily routine. One does not even throw a rock or ball that way.    ~ With darts, everything has to be learnt, and refined.  Wink

What is NATURAL? http://www.dartsnutz.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=22147

A beginner - always experimenting and trying to learn! So I can fool around with loads of set-ups and techniques! Lol! Big Grin
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what about this?
https://www.dartscorner.co.uk/product_in...s_id=16677

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(08-26-2017, 05:50 AM)Ancient Darter Wrote: Since i changed from a 3 finger to a 4 finger grip, many of my barrels are too short. 

I don't know of any way to add length at the back other than a 2g Add-A-Gram, but shopping around, I can only find the 2 gram ones, and usually in brass colour.

I took my silver/chromed ones, and shortened it/drilled holes to try and get the weight down as much as possible, but it still changes the balance as it's about 1.6g.

I guess the best for now I guess would be a silver coloured ONE gram Add-A-Gram, which I can also shorten just a smidgen, and drill to reduce weight, unless you guys can think of a better solution. Even buying a new barrel won't usually work because many do not have length options, except the Platinum and higher end Jokers.

I bought some 2g add-a-gram off some chinese retailer off ebay. AVOID is my advice. On 2 seperate retailer, they sent the wrong amount. 1 set means 1 piece. Also very poor machining on the threads. They will come off misaligned. So when u roll ur dart on a flat surface, u will see very bad wobble. In fact, u will feel the misalignment just by holding it.
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Why not ask Antony at Madhouse if he can make what you need to lengthen your barrels, that way you would get accurate machine work and great quality?
They would certainly be bespoke parts and postage would be minimal too for such small items
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Don't know if it's the short or the tweenie which are supplied with the DF02, but the TI-part is 7,2mm long and weighs 0,72g. The whole shaft is 38mm long and weighs 1,45g. (If I can trust my cheap scale)
Think Getagrip made a review about the Daytona Fires where he weighted the dart with the supplied setup...
Hope it helps. Also can look at these addagrams 
http://www.dartkiste.de/index.php?cat=73...0c2dea6d01
Hope it helps...
If there are any problems ordering from germany, please pm me...
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(08-26-2017, 01:01 PM)copigme Wrote: what about this?
https://www.dartscorner.co.uk/product_in...s_id=16677

Thanks John! The CG Hybrid flight holder is a very nice concept, but heavy at 2.4g. The extension (actual magnesium shaft portion) is 1.7g, but right now, my chopped up AAG is 1.6g, plus a short spinner comes up to about the same weight! Another possible Answer Found, Thanks Copigme!  Smile

(08-26-2017, 04:39 PM)shingmm Wrote:
(08-26-2017, 05:50 AM)Ancient Darter Wrote: Since i changed from a 3 finger to a 4 finger grip, many of my barrels are too short. 

I don't know of any way to add length at the back other than a 2g Add-A-Gram, but shopping around, I can only find the 2 gram ones, and usually in brass colour.

I took my silver/chromed ones, and shortened it/drilled holes to try and get the weight down as much as possible, but it still changes the balance as it's about 1.6g.

I guess the best for now I guess would be a silver coloured ONE gram Add-A-Gram, which I can also shorten just a smidgen, and drill to reduce weight, unless you guys can think of a better solution. Even buying a new barrel won't usually work because many do not have length options, except the Platinum and higher end Jokers.

I bought some 2g add-a-gram off some chinese retailer off ebay. AVOID is my advice. On 2 seperate retailer, they sent the wrong amount. 1 set means 1 piece. Also very poor machining on the threads. They will come off misaligned. So when u roll ur dart on a flat surface, u will see very bad wobble. In fact, u will feel the misalignment just by holding it.

I guess all of them are made by China so a lot of it is a matter of luck! Lol! Thanks for the heads up Shingmm! If you need the Add-A-Gram for the weight, you could go with the beautifully machined Tungsten Bull's Star version in rings or plain.  Smile

https://tshop.r10s.jp/hive/cabinet/n_dar...in=330:330

http://image.rakuten.co.jp/hive/cabinet/...0087_1.jpg


BTW, have you found a nice pub to play steeltip yet?

(08-26-2017, 07:50 PM)ChrisTheFish Wrote: Why not ask Antony at Madhouse if he can make what you need to lengthen your barrels, that way you would get accurate machine work and great quality?
They would certainly be bespoke parts and postage would be minimal too for such small items

Possible option noted, Thanks Chris!  Smile

(08-26-2017, 09:20 PM)Rabe1 Wrote: Don't know if it's the short or the tweenie which are supplied with the DF02, but the TI-part is 7,2mm long and weighs 0,72g. The whole shaft is 38mm long and weighs 1,45g. (If I can trust my cheap scale)
Think Getagrip made a review about the Daytona Fires where he weighted the dart with the supplied setup...
Hope it helps. Also can look at these addagrams 
http://www.dartkiste.de/index.php?cat=73...0c2dea6d01
Hope it helps...
If there are any problems ordering from germany, please pm me...

Thanks Rabe1! All the Daytonas are supplied with the shorts, and if the TI portion is only 0.72g, I think I have found my answer at 4 GBP just for the TI portion (since that is all I'm using. I won't trust the carbon section since they have been known to snap easily)!  Big Grin Thanks mate!

ANOTHER ANSWER FOUND, THANKS RABE1!  Smile


And thanks everyone for contributing!  Smile
I don't think there is anything 'natural' about throwing darts. A person does not naturally stand sideways, with weight more on one leg, lean forward and swing to launch a projectile repeatedly, day in, day out as part of daily routine. One does not even throw a rock or ball that way.    ~ With darts, everything has to be learnt, and refined.  Wink

What is NATURAL? http://www.dartsnutz.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=22147

A beginner - always experimenting and trying to learn! So I can fool around with loads of set-ups and techniques! Lol! Big Grin
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