Snatching is bad ! Open that hand please!
Snatching is bad,snatching is bad, snatching is bad, extend that arm reach for the target and open that hand. I have been holding on to my darts too long and not opening my hand near the very end of my throw. I know better and just realized that I was not opening that hand . Concentrated a bit on that and now much,much better grouping. Strange how something you know to do and fall out of the habit and then have to correct. Should be natural for me now but competition can cause me to do these things lol.
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I agree, and I know when I dont release that dart right, it often goes off at a funny angle. My difficulty is trying to do it naturally, feels a little too forced at times and puts me off me throw?
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I completely agree Saber. I have just recently finally started getting full extension on my throw. Much like you grip it feels unnatural at times but the more I do it the more I am finding that proper motion and it is starting to feel far more natural. Hopefully in another year I will be in good shape Big Grin
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Never given my release point a second thought. at what point do most people release a dart, as it is still rising, at he top or after the peak?
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My release is equivalent to Taylors
Play like it means nothing when it means everything


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Of course, the extension ought to be a full extension as well..... IMO, slo mo videos of the pros shows that some of their extensions are excessive, but if you always throw that way, you remove one more variable... that being the amount of extension.
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So important though to be consistent
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My main focus during practice is trying to get that smooth follow through. Although subconsciously focusing on the follow through is causing me to 'force' my darts into the board. I really need to film my throw and try to analyse it. But that's what practice is.
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Eventually, you'll figure out how to extend without force. It's certainly a mental thing. I am still working on it. I get it in batches, but then I lose it -- that's because of a wayward dart being a distraction or expectation being a distraction after hitting well. Things tighten up after a miss, which is the opposite of what should be done: Just remember and repeat the good ones .

Watch Ted Hankey. He's the master. I am sure he throws light darts softly with standard flights because that combination will float more.... the flight has more lift, the dart is lighter, so a softly thrown dart can make it to the board with far less power. Less power means more repeatable, which means more consistency is possible. ( And more daily practice sessions. )

In my experience, the power you want to use can vary from day to day, again for mental reasons. Nerves, distractions, focus, calmness, confidence all seem to change my arm speed, and even my stance! As the arm speed goes up, the stance becomes strained ( leaning to the board or weight on two legs ) and the wild darts start. Calm, confident and focused results in a well balanced stance on one leg and a smooth even delivery. I hit best this way.
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(08-31-2015, 08:08 PM)BigE Wrote: Eventually, you'll figure out how to extend without force. It's certainly a mental thing. I am still working on it. I get it in batches, but then I lose it -- that's because of a wayward dart being a distraction or expectation being a distraction after hitting well. Things tighten up after a miss, which is the opposite of what should be done: Just remember and repeat the good ones .

Watch Ted Hankey. He's the master. I am sure he throws light darts softly with standard flights because that combination will float more.... the flight has more lift, the dart is lighter, so a softly thrown dart can make it to the board with far less power. Less power means more repeatable, which means more consistency is possible. ( And more daily practice sessions. )

In my experience, the power you want to use can vary from day to day, again for mental reasons. Nerves, distractions, focus, calmness, confidence all seem to change my arm speed, and even my stance! As the arm speed goes up, the stance becomes strained ( leaning to the board or weight on two legs ) and the wild darts start. Calm, confident and focused results in a well balanced stance on one leg and a smooth even delivery. I hit best this way.
Nice post bub, with practice comes the smoothness we all desire. Hanky, Barney and John Lowe sooo smooth it brings a tear to my eye. No forcing there at all.
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Ted hankey has such a fluid throw and it's a joy to watch. Some days are great and my throw and release are spot on and some days I might only be focused at 95% and I start forcing the throw and cause all sorts of wayward shots. Think the biggest issue is all In my head.
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(08-31-2015, 08:13 PM)*Saber* Wrote: Nice post bub, with practice comes the smoothness we all desire. Hanky, Barney and John Lowe sooo smooth it brings a tear to my eye. No forcing there at all.

Thanks.... I can imagine just how much *hard* work it took to get on top of that smoothness and stay there. It's crazy.

I think one of the biggest keys to being able to repeat your stroke is to forget the previous shot. If it is bad, you must forget it or you may overwork the next shot. If it is good, you might start watching yourself shoot instead of shooting.

Remember that the good shots say "You can do it". Don't turn that into "You should do it". There is a world of difference between "can" and "should".

"Can" gives you confidence. "Should" leads to excessive expectations.... if I can hit a T20, should I hit it every time? Even the pros don't expect that.... you know they want it, but they know not to expect it.
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If someone could develop the idea I had before about having some kind of rfid chip embedded in a stem or barrel to relay info to a PC then we should be able to see exactly how much force people exert to their darts, I think it would be very interesting to compare Smile
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