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Dart weight? - TheBigKahuna - 04-12-2018

I've always thrown 24-26oz darts. It's what I own. I admittedly haven't experimented with much else. But my GF recently started playing and likes using my darts. She has trouble getting much velocity on them. She's still learning and trying to develop her throw. But I can't help but wonder if she's be better with much lighter darts, 19-20 instead of my heavier ones? I've contemplated buying her some just so she can try. Opinions? How important is dart weight? Does it go up or down with more experience?


RE: Dart weight? - Jefferz - 04-12-2018

Many women prefer heavier darts because there is more momentum with them. She may find lighter darts will be harder to throw as they require more force.


RE: Dart weight? - wongerchi - 04-12-2018

Have you tried tinkering with setup first before changing dart weight?


RE: Dart weight? - TheBigKahuna - 04-12-2018

What do you mean by setup? Shaft length, flights?

All we've tinkered with is her throw mechanics. She has to concentrate on throwing from her chin, not across her body. That's aiming problem #1. But getting darts to fly with velocity and a lot less arc is another problem.


RE: Dart weight? - gumbo2176 - 04-12-2018

I agree with Jefferz. I find lighter darts do take more effort to get them to the board. I've tried darts as light as 18 gram and they just weren't doing anything I wanted them to do. I jumped back to my 25 gram darts and all was well again.

Watch videos of Stephen Bunting throwing his lightweight darts. It looks like he's trying to throw them through the board he puts so much effort in getting them to the board.


RE: Dart weight? - gumbo2176 - 04-12-2018

(04-12-2018, 08:58 PM)TheBigKahuna Wrote: What do you mean by setup? Shaft length, flights?

All we've tinkered with is her throw mechanics. She has to concentrate on throwing from her chin, not across her body. That's aiming problem #1. But getting darts to fly with velocity and a lot less arc is another problem.

Yep, changing set-up means different stems, flight shapes etc.    You'd be surprised how much different a dart will fly with different flights and stem configurations.

Velocity will probably come with practice as she gets more comfortable tossing the darts.   I'd think just starting out, she doesn't really have a good grasp on the mechanics of a throw and the importance of a nice follow through in how the dart flies.


RE: Dart weight? - ranger86 - 04-12-2018

Would agree that heavier darts are easier to throw. I am limited to soft tip leagues where I live so I have to throw 18-19 gram darts. I do, however, own several sets of steel tip that are 24-26 grams and they require far less effort to throw and in my opinion impart greater "feel" due to their weight.

I think wongerchi is talking about trying different flights and stem lengths. Generally, smaller flight (kite, etc.) have a bit less resistance through the air so the dart is "zippier". This is why I use smaller flights on my soft tip darts.


RE: Dart weight? - bkbum - 04-12-2018

(04-12-2018, 06:14 PM)Jefferz Wrote: Many women prefer heavier darts because there is more momentum with them. She may find lighter darts will be harder to throw as they require more force.

I've always wondered if there is a "goldilocks" range of momentum [dart weight x arm speed] that produces the best results.


RE: Dart weight? - Jefferz - 04-13-2018

(04-12-2018, 11:47 PM)bkbum Wrote:
(04-12-2018, 06:14 PM)Jefferz Wrote: Many women prefer heavier darts because there is more momentum with them. She may find lighter darts will be harder to throw as they require more force.

I've always wondered if there is a "goldilocks" range of momentum [dart weight x arm speed] that produces the best results.
I would guess around 21-23g.


RE: Dart weight? - bkbum - 04-13-2018

(04-13-2018, 12:00 AM)Jefferz Wrote:
(04-12-2018, 11:47 PM)bkbum Wrote:
(04-12-2018, 06:14 PM)Jefferz Wrote: Many women prefer heavier darts because there is more momentum with them. She may find lighter darts will be harder to throw as they require more force.

I've always wondered if there is a "goldilocks" range of momentum [dart weight x arm speed] that produces the best results.
I would guess around 21-23g.

Weight is only half the equation. You still need to determine the best arm speed for those weights.


RE: Dart weight? - Ed13 - 04-13-2018

I was given 3 sets of darts when I was young and for a number of years I used 34g as they were the easiest to control for consistency. Over the years I have dropped down in weight and now use 23g. Finding the right stem length and flights make a huge difference as well. My daughters (11 and 12) started playing and I let them try a variety of dart styles and weights with an assortment of flights and stems to find what they liked best. If you have a shop you can try different darts let your GF try as many as she can to see what feels best.


RE: Dart weight? - 1double1 - 04-13-2018

so, if heavier darts is more suitable for girls and beginners. can i say heavier darts are more forgiving to throw?


RE: Dart weight? - Banz - 04-13-2018

How's her follow through? I found it easier to throw with more force when I increased my follow through.


RE: Dart weight? - Noj - 04-13-2018

(04-12-2018, 09:00 PM)gumbo2176 Wrote: I agree with Jefferz.    I find lighter darts do take more effort to get them to the board.   I've tried darts as light as 18 gram and they just weren't doing anything I wanted them to do.    I jumped back to my 25 gram darts and all was well again.    

Watch videos of Stephen Bunting throwing his lightweight darts.   It looks like he's trying to throw them through the board he puts so much effort in getting them to the board.

But boy does it work

Noj


RE: Dart weight? - Noj - 04-13-2018

(04-13-2018, 06:07 AM)1double1 Wrote: so, if heavier darts is more suitable for girls and beginners. can i say heavier darts are more forgiving to throw?

No. All we are saying is that you require less effort and it is USUALLY when you start having to use effort to get the dart to the board that any flaw in the throw will be magnified hugely

Noj